Google L4 to L5 promo

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Jul 12, 2021 33 Comments

Will be joining Google India as L4. TC offered : base 34.5L, RSU: 115K

I'm currently working as an SDE2 at Uber for over a year. YOE: 5

I've been told that I'm being hired at the top of the band and I can expect promo within 2 years. I know recruiters overstate all the times, hence turning to Blind.

1- Is the recruiter bluffing about TC band? Is there significant room for negotiation?

2 - How long, on an average, it would take to reach next level?

3- Is it worth pursuing L5, both in terms of pay as well as responsibilities you get?

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    j7k8dv9e

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    j7k8dv9e
    The recruiter is bluffing or clueless
    1. It is not top of band
    2. There is no such thing as fast promo at Google
    Jul 12, 2021 1
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      SJIw20

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      OP
      I've also had similar discussion around promo with HM. Is that reliable?
      Jul 12, 2021
  • Too many details missing to give you an accurate answer.
    Your yoe?
    Previous company?
    What org at Google?
    Jul 12, 2021 4
    • Also, regarding your offer it’s certainly top quartile (assuming 33% first year vesting). The only L4’s I know who are getting more are folks with very high yoe who were downlevelled.

      Arent you getting any sign on bonus? And what’s the annual bonus percent
      Jul 12, 2021
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      SJIw20

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      Yes offer is front loaded. 33% for first two years. No sign on bonus. Perf bonus is usual 15% of base.
      Jul 12, 2021
  • I got lowball too but they can't do much with the L4 band anymore. In fact when they reveal the numbers the first they did is apologize and said I know this is insulting. So the HM, recruiter and director decided to appeal for me to L5. So there's more room to negotiate salary.
    Aug 4, 2021 0
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    4480

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    4480
    Nope, HM is also clueless / misleading you. While manager plays a role in promotions, they're still decided by a committee, so there's not too much a manager can do (short of creating a fake project for you).

    Median time for 4-5 is about 2 years (note the survivorship bias, though) but you would need some time to ramp up as well (to both Google and project -- and chances are, you might not be joining an established team given a lot of teams hiring are new).
    Jul 12, 2021 0
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    IRVU86

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    IRVU86
    It’s a decent offer for 1st year but definitely not top of the band for L4. Do the maths for 4 years as how much you would be making each year.

    Negotiate for more RSU’s
    Jul 12, 2021 4
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      SJIw20

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      What's usual refresher range for L5 in India? How does it vest?
      Jul 12, 2021
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      nooglerL5

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      nooglerL5
      Oh boy, refreshers are GOOD. For L5, Meets expectation rating gives 55K USD (Over 4 years). So, around 10L each year and with stacking, it gets added up super nice.
      Jul 13, 2021