L5@Google TC:490K (post-cliff) Both companies interested but both initial offers in hand do not reflect a hot job market. Twitter (Staff IC = L5.75+ Google) Base 245K Stock 700K (6mo cliff, quarterly vest) Bonus: 25% Signon 30K =TC: 450K (upper end of my level but lower than what I make) —————— Robinhood (Staff IC = L6 Google) Base 240K Stock 870K (no cliff, quarterly vest) Bonus: 10% Signon 60K (split over 2yr) =TC: 520K (L+1 but barely over what I make) I told both recruiters my target is 650K to meet halfway, but the gap is massive. Loc: seattle YoE:9
You're not going to get 650k with that level of experience
Have you ever consider the possibility that you just don’t worth that much?
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That’s what companies want you to believe. Companies will pay you the lowest amount they can to keep you on as an employee. Why do you think you get a counter offer as soon as you have an external offer. Did you suddenly become worth more? Why do you think you need to ‘haggle’ after clearing interviews?
Get your head out of the clouds. You’re not exactly L6 material at G anyways
Carries a lot of weight coming out of Qualcomm lol. Refreshers at Google have been excellent however.
Don’t take my word for it. The market isn’t exactly validating your assumptions. Admit that you’ve got a good setup for an L5 and carry on
How hard is L6 promo at G?
It’s not easy but the TC is already trending down here (it would be nightmare if it wasnt for appreciation) and the saying goes “you’re leaving lots of money on the table if you haven’t changed jobs after covid”.
Gotcha. Why don't you try for other companies like FB, Stripe, Snap? I think they will get to 600+.
Congratulations! Good offers. What’s your TC without appreciation? That’s how much Google bet on you.
You’re L5 at G so coming in at low end of Staff. Would be a different story if you were L6
Just go to Jane Street.
Both Twitter Staff and Robinhood Staff are lower levels than Google Senior. Twitter is upleveling these days to compete. Twitter Staff TC is lower than your current Google Senior SWE. Would you go for upleveled Twitter Staff role? Robinhood, that's the highest level they can give you as Google Senior, but still, it is an unethical company. Either stay or join Robinhood.
Twitter staff is Google L5.75 (L5 is senior), and RH Staff is Google L6. Are you sure? 😄
5.75 according to what? Comp bands in levels.fyi? "Twitter is upleveling with other companies to compete with salary bands" => Do you understand what this means? It means that, people who should be Senior at Twitter, are given Staff titles to compete with comp of other companies. And in this case, Twitter Staff comp couldn't even match your current Google Senior TC. "RH Staff is Google L6" => Get yourself checked, or stop referring to levels.fyi.
Yoe is too low and they know it. Even if they’re giving you something close to Staff, they’ll lowball, because they know you’re unlikely to have lots of competing staff offers with that yoe.
How’s almost a decade of experience low for L6 equivalent? 🤔
Scope and you are l5 at google.