Hire people with 15 years of experience at the price of a new grad?
Feb 14
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It is pretty typical... Google, Facebook, they pay their new grad $190k TC...
And then for people who have worked 10+, 15+ years, come in as a contractor, with $90 / hour, or $92 / hour. That's $173k per year.
(52 weeks per year - 2 week holidays no pay - 3 week vacation no pay = 47 weeks = 1880 hours per year). And new grads who are full time also have 401k match, ESPP, life insurance, health insurance, dental, vision, these benefits are not part of the "TC" yet.
So that's very "convenient". What's in their mind? Paying people with 15 years of experience at the price of a new grad? Do they think there is a class of people who are slaves and deserve to get less?
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I'm FTE at G too (L5), but I don't work in a location with a high cost of living. I've seen L3 offers in the Bay Area with slightly higher TC than me, but I'm not salty about it.
You underestimate the number of paid vacations. G and FB with start with 4 weeks now.
G has no ESPP.
Doesn't seem fair to me.
If a person with 10-15 years of experience don't want to do that, then that's their choice.
It is like how to teach an idiot to recite something so that he can appear not like an idiot:
> Interviewer: “Give me an example of your most difficult customer interaction and how you worked through it. What was the outcome?”
> You: “At XYZ Company, I once had an internal customer who wasn’t happy with the product I created. When I dug in, I found that the product that I built matched the requirements laid out in the requirements building phase that gathered by a different team. Instead of blaming or pushing back on that team, I dug in to find out what the customer wanted the product to do. I communicated the updated requirements to the build team and got all required approvals. We were able to build out the new features in X days. The customer was satisfied because the product was able to do what s/he needed it to do.”
By the way, this guy looks so stupid:
https://youtu.be/CpcxVE5JIX4?t=18
and this lady trying her best so that she CAN look like a decent programmer. I can sense that she is the type of person in our class trying her best to get a B grade and hoping people think that she is smart enough:
https://youtu.be/mjZpZ_wcYFg?t=350