What is up with C3.Ai

Apple / Eng
HypeOS

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 HypeOS
Feb 17 24 Comments

From a LinkedIn search it seems that they are full of talent from Stanford, Berkley, CMU, MIT, etc.
It seems that Google is using it for its cloud.

What gives? What are they making that is special and G or other companies cannot replicate fast?

Stock getting crushed week after week.
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  • Apple / Eng
    Mr. Hat 🎩

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     Mr. Hat 🎩
    Degrees while being a good filter, do not guarantee success when starting a company.
    Feb 17 10
    • New
      aHdLf

      New

      aHdLf
      @egDr85 the company gave grants of 6-7 figures vesting over a year to some individuals to get them to stay. And these weren’t necessarily high level people or people with tons of levels of experience, just people that the company felt they needed to keep. Some of those people are still considering leaving since those grants are now worth a lot less than when they were given in the fall.
      Feb 27
    • New
      egDr85

      New

      egDr85
      @aHdLf good to know I am not in the important group πŸ˜‚ my refresh was nothing despite top performance review
      Feb 27
  • New / Eng
    Admin .

    New Eng

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     Admin .
    Don't, the culture is toxic. They asked employees to come to office during covid too. No wfh
    Feb 17 0
  • C3 == Palantir
    Feb 17 0
  • Wym why G can't replicate? Who ever comes with new tech or build something useful G has to replicate or counter it? No one other than G can make good products? What is even the rationale here?
    Feb 17 3
    • Because it's cheaper. People don't develop everything internally just because they can. If some operational AI can be outsourced and plugged-in at cost, why the hell will you build it? Better put your resources into something more revenue generating or important.
      Feb 17
    • Apple / Eng
      HypeOS

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       HypeOS
      OP
      So that is my question. Is it actually innovative and hence they have pricing power so they can start printing money at high margin or is it a fad.
      Feb 17
  • New
    egDr85

    New

    egDr85
    Essentially we make a giant infrastructure that serves massive amounts of data. We have almost no vendor lock-in, as all APIs are in normal code and all endpoints are published and all data is completely yours.

    As a dev at C3, using C3, I've been able to take a few large CSVs and build entire web apps routing through ML pipelines with full React UI in under 3 days. Prove that MVP for almost no time. Multiple times. Unbelievable pace of development.

    c3 basically abstracts the entirety of infrastructure and complexity. I go straight from data model to custom API code. I never have to write any cloud stuff, DB migrations, etc. I do not even have an AWS or Google Cloud account and I've been here many years.

    Most of our projects are around 2-6 engineers total, even the ones bringing in $20M+ annually because we have such a ridiculous amount of leverage across the entire stack.
    Feb 27 2
    • Elastic
      uiijjjm

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      uiijjjm
      Really?
      Mar 4
    • New
      egDr85

      New

      egDr85
      Yes really. It's actually an insane productivity machine. Our lack of sales speaks volumes of our sales abilities and/or price, because the benefit of use is there for sure. For *most* things dev it's the best system I can think of by a long shot. I enjoy it and also don't feel like I have skills too niche since custom logic still has to be in Python/js/ts/java. The opposite really, since it lets you work at a system level instead of glue level. I regularly practice the transferable skills and never need to touch S3 or EC2 or Azure Functions or whatever other more-niche skill.

      Consequentially, interviews are often a breeze as I have used the system design skills daily with zero time wasted on specific technology configuration

      I would pay a few hundred a year to use C3 on my hobby projects that generate 0 value and are just for fun. But that's not even remotely possible.
      Mar 4