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I am an SDE2 at Amazon. My life goal is to become a technical manager at Google. I have been in two different orgs and both my managers have always been supportive of me switching to an SDM. I have been delaying it because I feel too young (25). I also want to make sure that I grow enough technically to become a manager at Google. I have heard that switching companies as a manager is much tougher than as an engineer. Would it be wiser and easier for me to switch to Google as L4 engineer and then do a career switch within? TC: 180+
Just curious, why is being a technical manager your life goal?
As an SDE, I love connecting with other engineers and feel the desire to help them grow. I also think personal development is just as important as career development. I see other managers and give feedback on areas for improvement. I’m also able to get along with people well. I think my managers see that and that is why they’re always supportive. It would be really cool to be greater than just a leaf node. Why Google? the hype and perks. Also, I don’t want to become an SDE3 All the SDE3 I know have no WLB which is extremely important to me. Speaking of WLB, would love to get input on if WLB as an SDM is better than SDE3.
SWE to EM isn’t a career switch, it’s a progression. Go for L4, EM is L5 at G
Everything you said is wrong.
25 too young. Unless you been writing prod code since 14 Think about this.. As a manager you need respect of people 10y older smarter and more experienced and they aren't going to think much of you and your advice unless you are a genius, famous, or have gone thru the grind. Put in another 5yr minimum in the trenches
No ones going to respect you just because you did X years at Y, especially at G. Regardless of who you are or how you go in, you’re going to have to earn your teams respect. If anything, having the mindset of becoming a manager at 25 will bear better success than someone who switches to management mid 30s because they wish to code less/prefer that task at that age. OP, go for it.
Need a better life goal to start with
Become a senior first. Hard to manage people if you don't have the tech credit.
This is what I thought but I realized managers rarely talk about past experience - only when relevant and asked about.
When it comes the time that a subordinate challenges you, you either play ranks with seniority and experience or get a big 'fuck you'. Seen it many times in my previous company.
Most companies want you to have some management experience (3-5 years) before hiring you as a manager. Also for every 10 L4 positions there’s only going to be 1 EM slot. So you should try to get into Google as L4/L5 and at same time try to get an SDM at Amazon.
This is great advice. L5 at google is an L6 at Amazon. On Amazon, the minimum you need to be is an L5 which is a lower technical bar than transitioning within Google. I am worried this would immediately send my resume to a reject pile.