TPM vs Product Managers.

Nov 21, 2019 23 Comments

There has a high rise in TPMs demand around the top notch companies spl in Google linkedin and Facebook. Microsoft still follows to have just 1 role to drive their program.

Question to all product guys

Will you switch to TPM ever with the fancy compensation and tech depth it can bring to you ?

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  • Microsoft DedCntr
    Amazon PM is all over the place. PMT-ES(AWS)>PMT>TPM>PM
    Nov 21, 2019 0
  • Facebook zuckdorsey
    ^ Not true for Facebook and Google.

    PMs > > TPMs.
    Nov 21, 2019 3
    • Microsoft nickT
      OP
      I have heard lost of cases where TPMs are paid more in Fb and G.
      Nov 21, 2019
    • Facebook zuckdorsey
      I’m a PM at Facebook and I can guarantee that for any org, PM > TPM for a given level.
      If Program Manager is what you mean by PM, that’s a different story then.
      Nov 21, 2019
    • Dell LUHV04
      Facebook- for salary what difference are we talking about ?
      Nov 21, 2019
  • Facebook jfq0156
    Most of the SWEs are dumbass donkeys who know how to talk to a machine but not to people. That’s why the TPM role is important.
    Only a small % of swes solve complex problems. Rest of the herd...
    Nov 21, 2019 1
    • JPMorgan Chase (╯°□°)╯
      This is the truth, but you won't hear it a lot here or in many other tech circles because most people in tech are SWEs. But the reality is that a good TPM keeps the team moving and represents the team to management because SWEs either don't want to or simply can't communicate effectively at that level.
      Nov 21, 2019
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    TPMs are considered second class citizens at Facebook I have heard below SWE/Data and PM
    Nov 21, 2019 0
  • JPMorgan Chase (╯°□°)╯
    Tpm here. Lol we dont have "fancy compensation." At best we are paid slightly more than software engineers one level lower than us.
    Nov 21, 2019 0
  • I don’t think they have fancy compensation. SWE is king. PM is much better and adds more value To company
    Nov 21, 2019 0
  • Microsoft itvA00
    MSFT combines both TPM and PM roles into a single role. They are paid same as SDE at same level.
    Nov 21, 2019 3
    • Microsoft nickT
      OP
      Even more than sde :)
      Nov 21, 2019
    • JPMorgan Chase (╯°□°)╯
      What is this role called?
      Nov 21, 2019
    • Microsoft nickT
      OP
      It's called program manager but you take care of product, tech and program.
      Nov 21, 2019
  • F5 Networks RRA
    TPM is not a prestige role, OP. Don't kid yourself. It's neither PM, nor SDM, nor the prestigious SWE. It's the runt of the litter.
    Nov 21, 2019 0
  • Microsoft nickT
    OP
    Yes in Amazon linkedin Facebook and Google
    Nov 21, 2019 5
    • Amazon econgineer
      This is false. PM-Tech gets paid more than TPM.
      Nov 21, 2019
    • Microsoft nickT
      OP
      PM and PM-T are different roles. I was comparing PM and TPM. SDM > SDE> PM-T > TPM > PM
      Nov 21, 2019
    • Amazon econgineer
      PM-T is the more relevant role. Most other companies don't have this weird distinction from what I can tell.
      Nov 21, 2019
    • Microsoft nickT
      OP
      The no. of PM-T vs PM in Amazon is like 1:30.
      Nov 21, 2019
    • Amazon econgineer
      I meant at Facebook the PMs are PM-T's
      Nov 21, 2019
  • New deflow
    Any examples of PM vs TPM TCs ? Assuming same level
    Nov 21, 2019 0

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