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I joined as SDE I in a new team but I have worked in the domain for 4 years now. I have a team mate - an SDE II who constantly takes credit for ideas that I brought up during our private discussions. He once over heard my conversation with another engineer about a solution and brought up the exact same solution like he thought of it. He says things only in my manager's presence during scrum. This is the only contribution he makes but talks a lot. Honestly, I think he is just all talk and my manager thinks I should go to him for advice as I am newer to the team. How do I tell my manager or work with such a person but still earn trust? I am tired of saying I thought about this or we talked about that. This is discouraging me from sharing my thoughts and I think this is toxic to my work life and is also affecting my path to a promotion.
Why not telling Your ideas to Your Mgr? If f2f not convenient, then create a sheet/ppt/JiRa Epic , put Your stuff there, even if not mature. Share with stakeholders.
This ^^^
Idea lol? Grow the fk up, use ur 1 on 1 to backstab him/her and start taking other people’s credit too. Use more we in public and pretend to be nice. And as a Swe1, u have couple levels to climb before u even matter, if u are that good do ur own startup
“Taking other people’s credit too” Too early in the morning to be this devious. Don’t do it. Karma is real and it catches up to you sooner or later. The fact that you are discussing your ideas tells me that the process enhances them or helps you validate them, that’s added value and the idea is now a team idea. Otherwise why even discuss it? Maybe you should stop discussing your ideas with him or outloud until it’s time for the Scrum?
If kArma was real we wouldn’t have trump as a president. Don’t be so naive
Ideas shouldn't matter for work assessment purposes anyway. It's more about implementation. Especially if u r sde 1, 2, 3. So I would not sweat it. Also importantly it's your job to get along with everyone. Can't stress this enough. That goes doubly for a new person, triply for the most junior. Speaking strictly from the point of view of advancing your own career OP.
Won't finding a solution and implementing has more value than just implementing it?
Yeah I'm pretty sure that promotability is largely about your ability to find the right solution, not just implement it like a robot... If you can't come up with the right solution yourself then you won't notice when your implementation violates one of the less obvious requirements
Next time you have such a great idea drop a note to your manager asking what they think about it. Egg on face for the other eng when they try to own it later.
Note: this only works if you also tell the idea-stealing eng about it after telling the manager, and before the next day's scrum
Communicate and Implement your own ideas!! They will help you learn and grow, as well as help you advance your career. Bring your ideas to the team and your manager instead of taking it to specific people. Take the idea, design it out, maybe create a POC, and THEN present it. This is how the world works. If you don’t take ownership of your own ideas, trust me someone else will. There are plenty of ideas, innovations, and inventions where the person with the original thought is a nobody, while the person who took it and did something with it has gone down in history. Going to your manager is not the solution here, and won’t do much to help you in the long run. Learning from this and taking ownership is the solution.
This is the best advice I’ve heard!
^This is best advice I’ve read. Also, quit complaining. And quit giving away your ideas if you’re going to be mad when they’re repeated by your teammates. (I would hate to feel like I’m upsetting a teammate by mentioning an idea they said first - grow up - you’re thinking about yourself instead of the team).
Maybe ask this person to elaborate on the idea when it is brought up publicly. If he/she is short on details it will come to light.
Just avoid private discussion with any one. Looks like toxic work env
The environment you are suggesting doesn’t seem any better though.
In a situation like this; what should the manager do if confronted by the employee?
Learn from your mistakes? Never trust the same person twice
Amen
This ^^^