To Indians who cry out loud, boast and complain! Just stop it right away for good!

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Aug 2, 2020 67 Comments

I am an Indian and I am grateful to US for allowing me and my fellow nationals to come into US for working and enjoying what this great country has to offer!

To all Indians - Stop making unnecessary posts like you are the best at tech or India is the best or such non sense. It just increases prejudices against Indians.

Mind you western countries and a lot of other countries are far more advanced in innovation and have been a pioneer in a lot of sectors than India - where as India is still a developing country and it clearly lacks in innovation, engineering, quality of life and education but India has been changing for good but not aggressively though. I wish India joins the league of these developed countries sooner than later like every citizen of the country does!

Rather complaining and boasting you and our country in an another soil just pick positive things, respect peers and enjoy what USA has to offer with some gratitude to it's welcoming immigration policies during your stay than making noise!

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  • Snowflake Computing / HR
    Dhjdnfm

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    Dhjdnfm
    That pride is to over-compensate for the fact that the 400 years of oppression and slavery that Indians went through is completely ignored by the US people, whereas oppression faced by other groups are easily acknowledged. Today's success of India (however small it is), is completely attributable to the culture of hard work and grind, unlike the US progress which is built on the backs of you know who and mostly inherited.

    Treat us with the sympathy we deserve. That's all. Somehow Chinese are put in the same group as Indians when defining your 'Asian' category that you label as 'privileged', which completely masks the horrible things my ancestors went through until 1947 (yes, until pretty recently).
    Aug 2, 2020 10
  • Amazon
    MQ89

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    MQ89
    That’s typical insecure 20 years old way of thinking. They have a very narrow road in front of them. They have to keep reassuring that the door will stay open, and they are strong enough to pass the door.

    I saw in another post that entry level developer makes 20k USD in India. It is a lot of money in a country where GDP per capita is $2000, and half of the population live under 2 dollars a day. This may explain where their pride is from.

    Frankly speaking, India is not on the right track. Everyone who expects bright future of India will be disappointed. Africa has 1 billion people and 2 trillion dollar GDP. India has 1 billion people and two trillion GDP as well. Build a 4 trillion dollar GDP economy first before considering you are not underperforming.
    Aug 2, 2020 20
    • Amazon
      MQ89

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      A few years ago, I heard that live above 2 dollars a day makes you a middle class in India. The bar is probably higher now?

      If you click this link, you will see 83% Indian people live under 5.5 dollar (PPP, so it is pretty much the same as 2 dollars in nominal dollars) a day. And you said India has hundreds of millions of middle class, so probably 5.5 dollars a day is the new bar?

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in_poverty

      But I agree with you that India is probably safer to live than South Africa. But safety isn’t really an economic measurement.
      Aug 3, 2020
    • Amazon
      echosmith

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      echosmith
      You can get a small car, rent a 2 BHK in a tier2 city, send kids to govt school + college, arrange medical care for a family of 4 in India for around Rs 300,000 a year. That's what an entry level software job at a shit-tier company pays.

      That's USD $3,991.35 ~4k - or 4000/(365*4) = $2.74 dollars a day per person or around $8-11/day in PPP adjusted terms. India's PPP ratio is around 3-4. I'd consider that the borderline for middle class - it's a hard life, but not one in which you are worried about food or shelter or sending kids to college.

      GDP per capita has gone up around 50% nominal since the 2015 (when your data is from) and around 30% in PPP terms. The ~20% above $5.5/capita are probably making >$8-10 PPP/day now - that's 270 million people and includes every Indian you've ever met.

      In wealth rather than income terms - around 22% of indians have wealth greater than $10k USD. Which is around $35-40k when adjusted for PPP. That puts them above the bottom 35% of Americans - the income and wealth numbers seem to match up roughly, since most wealth in India is new. 0.22*1.35B = 297 million people living middle class lifestyles compared to 231 million (330 * 0.7) in the US.

      https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-personal-wealth-richest-millionaires-report-6080333/

      https://dqydj.com/net-worth-brackets-wealth-brackets-one-percent/
      Note, however, that India's wealth distribution is better than SA's - indeed compared to most of Africa for a variety of reasons.

      https://worldpoverty.io/map

      Currently 4% of Indians live in extreme poverty (1.9 PPP line) vs 28% of South Africans. Despite SA having 50% higher GDP per capita PPP and and 200% higher GDP per capita nominal. Hell, it's inequality adjusted HDI (0.463) is LESS than India's (0.477).

      http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/IHDI

      Fun fact, the UN traditionally bases its international extreme poverty line in PPP terms on India's domestic poverty line and has done so for decades.
      Aug 3, 2020
  • To all who are appalled by the entitlement of "low skilled IT workers" from India, look at the following:

    https://www.immihelp.com/greencard-sponsors/search-results?fiscalYear=2015&countryOfCitizenship=Iran&status=Certified%2CCertified+Withdrawn%2CCertified-expired%2CDenied%2COthers%2CWithdrawn&page=1&rows=10&sortField=yearlyWage&sortingOrder=asc

    This is from 2015, so most people in this list probably already have GCs in hand because they are not from India. These profiles (janitors, cleaners, pizza delivery) have a GC because their biggest merit is that they are not from India.

    Meanwhile, an Indian software engineer who applied in 2011 under the EB2 category is still waiting.
    Aug 2, 2020 15
    • And those who are trying to blame WITCH - Hear this out. WITCH didn't send those guys to US on it's own. For every H1-B sponsored by WITCH, there is an approval from the head of business of the US company to get that guy here. Blame your $ greedy corporation if you think WITCH are the culprit.
      Aug 3, 2020
    • You should have learnt how to jump a wall rather writing code which is used in products used by millions. If you knew how to jump a wall, you could have either got GC here or you could have won a Gold medal for home country in the Olympics.
      Aug 3, 2020
  • Lyft
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    qjuwgx
    Indians need to stop getting defensive whenever someone tells them to stop talking about India. Stop saying that India is a superpower and get to work. India lacks hard work. I say this as an Indian.
    Aug 2, 2020 8
    • India is not a superpower. It is a third world country. The fact that Indians can't admit that is astonishing to me.
      Aug 3, 2020
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      Accenture guys are happy that they are not there in WITCH. 😂
      Aug 4, 2020
  • OP, are you scared you will lose this opportunity because some Indians are pissing off Americans?
    Aug 2, 2020 2
    • EA / Eng
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      OP
      Lol you must be joking right? Why would I lose anything? It's so pathetic when Indians whine and make posts feeling entitled or boast about how they are or India is when not in India and wanna be Americans and love to be on America.
      Aug 2, 2020
    • See my comment below; look at the data before judging the entire country and why they are whining.
      Aug 2, 2020