To the Amazon guy with the humiliating experience

Nov 24, 2019 27 Comments

You didnt have to delete that post. A coworker who openly humiliated you in front of the entire open floor environment due to some supposed inferior skill set is a shitty deal to be sure. But I want to leave a word of encouragement here which I hope others find should you think your situation is hopeless.

Nothing we say here is going to help with the psychological side with any real permanence. All I can tell you is what I know to be true from my own experience and express my confidence that this is likely true universally.

Never, ever, let your current environment, peers, or management set the terms of your worth or potential. I have worked in shit environments where opportunities were cut short or limited, or where management treated subordinates as inferior stock. I stayed at these jobs as long as i could use their live business environment as sort of my training ground, while building up my skill set.

But most of the work has to be done separately from your duties. Sacrifice off-time to start researching, training, building your own lab, and your library of personal notes, ebooks, and references. Build your personal knowledge base as though you were preparing to present to your future employer a plan to execute on a project. Research industry standards, and vendor pricing.

I've gotten to the point where I was pretty sure I knew my shit. But had no idea how far advanced I was in the industry. I found myself in a toxic work environment (an auto lending company) where management was biased to one team, and I wasn't on that team. That meant I got shit support for my project (last priority) which meant the lowest bonus/raises/recognition, etc.

Then I got an offer for a remote work six-month contract at $250/hr, which I silently did and crushed it. Within six months after that contract finished, I was hired to relocate and work at Microsoft, in a highly visible and senior position. It's so far been the pinnacle of my career. And all those former coworkers who thought I was shit now reach out to me on Linkedin... even people I never really worked with. A senior leader and manager at that company invited me to dinner before I moved away, trying to convince me that the new role wasn't all it's cracked up to be.

I work alongside world-class industry recognized experts who consider me a peer... and every day I wonder how the f*ck did I wind up here? The answer: you duck your head down and ignore everything else but your own self-enrichment. Concentrate on becoming the best damn expert for yourself, in your team... then your department...then the company.. and then the city/region.

What i'm saying is, personalities can be toxic as can be the work environment. Often you will have to crawl through shit before your passion and dedication yields to clear impact. Your biggest advocate here will be market demand, which is unbiased, and doesn't give two shits about anything your coworker thinks. All that matters is your dedication and the talent that inevitably will come with it as a byproduct.

Watch "The Shawshank Redemption" if you haven't already.

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TOP 27 Comments
  • Sanofi VVRI77
    Time for you to be on TedTalk. Excellent motivational post!!!
    Nov 24, 2019 0
  • Kaiser Permanente / Eng Elho50
    I don’t read posts this long normally but this was worth it
    Nov 24, 2019 1
    • Google Suzumiya
      I found it to be a surprisingly fast read because the writing flowed smoothly and easily.
      Nov 24, 2019
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    If you see your coworkers being mistreated, please speak up on their behalf.

    We all swim in the same pool. Don't let people pee in it.
    Nov 24, 2019 0
  • Cisco Bnjdjd
    ❤️❤️
    Nov 24, 2019 0
  • Google Suzumiya
    All of this is fair and doable as long as:

    1. The job is not causing mental and physical health issues due to stress and burnout
    2. One has the energy and time to prepare for another job outside of work hours
    3. If not, then at least the content of the job allows for technical growth, rather than stagnation of skills into irrelevancy over years' time

    (I was trapped into all 3 problems simultaneously before and quit a previous role while on temporary visa, which was a difficult decision.)
    Nov 24, 2019 5
    • Symantec / Eng neshama
      The example of Shawshank was given for a reason.
      Nov 24, 2019
    • @Suzumiya how did your prep schedule look like? what did you do during those 3 months?
      Nov 24, 2019
  • New jIMO14
    +1 for not mentioning TC.
    Nov 25, 2019 0
  • Amazon / IT cSjD26
    Yes to everything op has said. Worth Bookmarking this post 👍
    Nov 24, 2019 0
  • Amazon is just like that. It happens all the time. The hiring process is not at all focused on skills because they know you can only succeed there if you have incredibly thick skin to deal with all the arseholes and in fact are potentially an arsehole yourself. The LP questions are all fundamentally equivalent and roughly translate to "will you force your opinion on others until the strongest voice wins?", "will you crack under pressure?"
    Nov 24, 2019 0
  • Airbnb IwWM35
    was your remote gig w2 or corp to corp?
    Nov 24, 2019 1
    • Microsoft Kiritoツ
      OP
      Yes. I had to figure out quickly how to set that up... LLC/Insurance...
      Nov 24, 2019
  • Google lSjX80
    The kind of people who would humiliate someone in public are not the best at judging skills and potential in the first place.

    They are not people to listen to or make decisions based on.
    Nov 24, 2019 0

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