LOL “slandering” that’s what you call it? I’m just talking about facts here. You can disagree and present counter facts. Also call me “betrayer” doesn’t make anything different from what I talked about
jiure Finally someone who knows the stuff. If you look back at history, China got its economic boom not only because Chinese people, but also because the help of Hongkong and Japan. When Deng started the reform, nobody in the world was willing to invest in China, consider its volatile political environment and equal-to-non supply chain. It was HongKong and Japan’s businesses led the investment in mainland China and they were asking very few in return. We never learned that in our history book, and in the history book still talks about how Japanese harassed our country. But the fact is CCP under Mao never ever confronted JP army, and after it took power it killed more Chinese than those died during war. CCP really did nothing neither in defending our country nor developing her.
Santa you don’t really know the story of what happened do you?
She could have sold to Iran. That’s not an issue, the US couldn’t have done anything about that. What she did was lie to US loan agencies about a subsidiary of ZTE, claiming that they were a wholly independent organization of ZTE, when they weren’t. This lie was breaking US law, because it was a lie that was done with a US company.
We have an extradition treaty with Canada, which means we capture and extradite people they want for breaking their laws, and they do the same for us.
She shouldn’t have broken US law while working with a US company, then travel to an ally of the US.
Ha ha. No one cares about ‘consequences’. Chinese people themselves don’t care about the rules set by their country. What would they do ? Make people not buy American products ? Make people not invest in US/Canada ? Well, guess what they have rules to stop people from moving money out of China (since past 3 years) and look how that worked out. :)
While China is second super power, its power is meager to US. China got out of poverty not long ago and it has years to catch up to have the same standard as any European counties or US. While I understand China does lots of bad things, it is usually worse in countries with poorer economy. It is just the way it works in the current world.
Even though Chinese government works hard to develop the country, it may take two generations to catch up the standard like US does. If you apply the similar rules to other countries, They would have been accused of violating more. Not trying to defend this case for China. Indian for example has 4x smaller economy. What that means is there would be more of human rights violations and what not in India. China as a country is huge but individuals don’t afford as much as other European or some Asian countries. This shows in a lot of forms and you can see average people are not as polite or educated etc which are the byproducts of years of economic wealth.
As a result, China as a country may do a lot more horrible things than most of other more developed countries.
I think China acted stupidly for trade war by trying to look like they can go toe to toe against US. Japan in 1980s was much more powerful yet US was able to subdue its economy to the point it enters into the recession lasting for 25 years. If China doesn’t surrender now, the consequences may be dire. China doesn’t even have as many companies that can sell the products globally as South Korea whose population is less than 4%. It simply doesn’t have the structure to go against this pressure.
There are some high tech which China is leading such as AI but difference is meaningless and number of things they can do better than anybody is very small. The world can live without China. All products will cost a bit more but what China does is not a unique or difficult things to do. They can be moved to other developing economies such as Vietnam and it has been happening. Xi’s signing to become a ruler indefinitely was a poor showing which triggered the concern for US. China should have acted like they were going to follow the rules set by US and silently improve its power at every aspect. It will also need democracy eventually when people are more mature. With current political system, it will face the limit soon in many areas and won’t be able to do more than what developing countries do until then.
A lot of speculations and the information used to support those arguments are rather farfetched. The current global stage is far more complex and ever-changing than what most people can realize. Almost all information we consume is pre-selected and filtered in one form or another. It's best to be an observer when we are seeing things through a tunnel.