When you have nearly 100% unemployment rate in tech how can it not be a pipeline problem. Companies have been hiring women from a 6 month boot camps to boost their numbers, why would they do that if they had slew of women in engineers graduating from universities http://blog.interviewing.io/we-ran-the-numbers-and-there-really-is-a-pipeline-problem-in-eng-hiring/ Here Aline Lerner gets numbers and discovers: “ It turns out that we’re actually hiring women at pretty much the same rate that women are graduating with CS degrees from four-year universities” She argues even without any bias against women, it is impossible to have gender parity with current rate of graduation. Which seems like common sense I suppose. She actually looks for real solutions like taking a skills-first approach instead of pedigree. Good read. Hopefully we can look at this and proactively work to get girls interested in tech at an early stage, rather than reactively trying to fix the problem.
Not a problem for Asians and less so for Eastern Europeans. Definitely a really dumb thing western societies do — stigmatize female engineers
What a stupid statement. So you’re saying there’s not stigma in Eastern Europe or East Asia against women in technical professions? Far more likely that it’s economic motivations driving Chinese and Indian women into tech. After all, those are the positions offering H1B sponsorship.
Right, which still means there is no stigma for women entering technical fields in those countries. Even if the motivation is economic ( as if men don’t enter this field because of money).
It’s always been a pipeline problem. Being an AA I hardly saw any AA in my computer science class. A lot of my AA friends still think you have to be “crazy smart” to be a dev and a lot of mystery still surrounds what devs actually do. If companies want to fix diversity they have to go to the high schools and middle schools of under privileged kids and let them know that this path exists plain and simple.
What do you mean by AA?
African American
Don't worry people. We in Microsoft will discriminate against more men. Our goal is to make 90% women and 10% men. Hopefully, other companies will follow us. Make women in IT great again!
I hope you heal past whatever pain makes you so bitter. Happy holidays!
It starts in elementary school and Jr. High where boys are pushed to math and sciences and girls always get pushed to literacy and art. Until we can take the bias out of the classroom we will see a disparity in the work place
Who is doing the pushing? Teachers or parents? Maybe we need to look at that I suppose and have some training in place to not have a set path for children based on gender
“It takes a village” - In that cultural norms are flexed by every person the child interacts with. Without consistent messaging, they wouldn’t respond the same way. Also, it is quite destructive to have gendered baby room colors and toys because it is the first step of asserting cultural norms that guide women away from STEM.