Turns out there is a pipeline problem

Dec 3, 2019 25 Comments

When you have nearly 100% unemployment rate in tech how can it not be a pipeline problem.

Companies have been hiring women from a 6 month boot camps to boost their numbers, why would they do that if they had slew of women in engineers graduating from universities


Here Aline Lerner gets numbers and discovers:

“ It turns out that we’re actually hiring women at pretty much the same rate that women are graduating with CS degrees from four-year universities”

She argues even without any bias against women, it is impossible to have gender parity with current rate of graduation. Which seems like common sense I suppose.

She actually looks for real solutions like taking a skills-first approach instead of pedigree.

Good read.

Hopefully we can look at this and proactively work to get girls interested in tech at an early stage, rather than reactively trying to fix the problem.


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TOP 25 Comments
  • Amazon oVIH81
    It starts in elementary school and Jr. High where boys are pushed to math and sciences and girls always get pushed to literacy and art. Until we can take the bias out of the classroom we will see a disparity in the work place
    Dec 3, 2019 13
    • Microsoft PsQj53
      My boy also for some reason growing up liked spinning things. We didn’t expose him to any TV and I remember doing an experiment with him as well to see where he goes at Toys r US when he was 2. And he just went to cars and trucks. Now for some reason he is into planes.

      But my point is that it is irrelevant. You can love dolls and still do Math and Science.

      I liked the point someone made here is to demystify engineering for children.
      Dec 3, 2019
    • LinkedIn / Eng igotb&
      Pushed? By whom?
      Dec 4, 2019
  • Airbnb kYFK02
    Not a problem for Asians and less so for Eastern Europeans. Definitely a really dumb thing western societies do — stigmatize female engineers
    Dec 3, 2019 3
    • Amazon mopfloor
      Right, which still means there is no stigma for women entering technical fields in those countries. Even if the motivation is economic ( as if men don’t enter this field because of money).
      Dec 4, 2019
    • Microsoft tzNc35
      Definitely not in Eastern Europe. We all have equal rights here. Only American companies do dumb things like diversity.
      Dec 8, 2019
  • Charles Schwab cLDY0
    It’s always been a pipeline problem. Being an AA I hardly saw any AA in my computer science class. A lot of my AA friends still think you have to be “crazy smart” to be a dev and a lot of mystery still surrounds what devs actually do. If companies want to fix diversity they have to go to the high schools and middle schools of under privileged kids and let them know that this path exists plain and simple.
    Dec 3, 2019 5
    • Microsoft PsQj53
      Where did you study, in Alaska?
      Dec 3, 2019
    • New / IT FbqW77
      😂 In South Carolina. Granted, the CS program was only about 100 or so people.
      Dec 3, 2019
  • Microsoft tzNc35
    Don't worry people. We in Microsoft will discriminate against more men. Our goal is to make 90% women and 10% men. Hopefully, other companies will follow us. Make women in IT great again!
    Dec 8, 2019 0


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