Tech IndustryJul 10, 2019
Twitterpopcorn🍿

Twitter tech apprenticeship: Whites, Asians, and Indians need not apply.

“...women, black, Latinx, Native American, etc, just to name a few. We’d like to highly encourage these, and all the folks from similar backgrounds, to apply” “Twitter is an equal opportunity employer. We do not discriminate based on race, color, ethnicity, ancestry, national origin, religion, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, sexual orientation, age, disability, veteran status, genetic information, marital status or any legally protected status.” Oh the irony. https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2019/engapprenticeshipprogram.html

Introducing the Twitter Engineering Apprenticeship Program
Introducing the Twitter Engineering Apprenticeship Program
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Google F0m38g Jul 10, 2019

in b4 lawsuit

Oscar 🐨koala Jul 10, 2019

:) why don’t you do a walk-out?

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dUNp73 Jul 10, 2019

Lol I can see that you are pissed, but someone in HR was just trying to go above and beyond to advertise diversity at twitter. No need to be so cynical.

Oscar 🐨koala Jul 10, 2019

Put it another way. The same can be said about university hiring event. It’s sort of discriminatory to give MIT kids better chance of getting interviews than an equally rockstar from a no-name school.

Twitter popcorn🍿 OP Jul 10, 2019

That’s cause MIT grads have a higher chance of success than hiring a rando from a state school. Yes there are some rockstar engineers that dropped out of college, didn’t attend, or went to a shitty school, but they are the few. If you hire an MIT grad, by definition he/she already has shown signs of success (by getting into one of the top engineering schools in the world). Less risk with hiring an MIT grad, no? I’ve yet to meet an MIT/Stanford CS grad that couldn’t code his way out of a paper bag (e.g., yes they were mostly all born smarter than the average American and also worked hard in high school).

Accenture akijangun Jul 10, 2019

Does anyone know the salaries for these positions?

2U fimb6 Jul 10, 2019

Not at all ironic. Giving apprenticeship opportunities to underrepresented folks in no way discriminates against folks who are prevalently offered tech roles and learning opportunities because stereotypes already favor them.

Twitter popcorn🍿 OP Jul 10, 2019

SJW spotted. Not sure where you have been the last year but “diversity” candidates are heavily favored now over whites and Asians at all the major tech companies.

Accenture akijangun Jul 10, 2019

Proof?

Indeed egobruiser Jul 10, 2019

I mean I totally think the whole D&I shit is tired and needs to evolve. But did you really overlook this part? “In our Inclusion & Diversity quarterly report, we announced that we were looking to generate a stronger pipeline for diverse talent. As we look to make our company reflect the diverse voices that come to Twitter every day...” Seems like you’re trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. ::yawn::

Google hioki Jul 10, 2019

These type of people routinely play the victim when it benefits them

Twitter popcorn🍿 OP Jul 10, 2019

What you said doesn’t negate my statement.

OpenDoor atleng Jul 10, 2019

IANAL, but I‘m pretty sure encouraging people from non-traditional backgrounds to apply without restricting applications to those people is okay under equal opportunity employment law so long as you don’t use [characteristic] after the application is submitted to whittle down the applicant pool or to make a final hiring decision after an interview. I don’t see any problem here.

Twitter popcorn🍿 OP Jul 10, 2019

But they do use it to whittle down the applicant pool.

OpenDoor atleng Jul 10, 2019

Do you have evidence showing that applicants from underrepresented groups that are subsets of protected classes were more likely to get interviews than applicants with traditional backgrounds? The way this reads, they are tiptoeing around to create a more diverse workforce by creating a more diverse talent pipeline (which is the only legal way), knowing that once someone applies they can’t use those sorts of characteristics to make decisions about who receives an interview. Also worth noting that they’re perfectly within their rights to show a bias toward candidates who, for example, are boot camp graduates. That is not a protected class.

Uber mH7bSe Jul 10, 2019

New way to hire un-qualified DI hire.

2U fimb6 Jul 10, 2019

That’s a pretty gross assumption. But also, these are pre-entry level positions that are intended to train up people into qualified engineers. They surely don’t pay as well as an engineer and they likely don’t turn into eng positions if a person doesn’t qualify after. I know how apprenticeships are handled where I work and I doubt they would promote people who weren’t any good just to keep their diversity numbers.

Microsoft idknbd Jul 10, 2019

nowhere does it say whites need not apply

Twitter popcorn🍿 OP Jul 10, 2019

Uhm, it’s pretty clear. They won’t hire you for this program if you are not one of the target diversity groups.

Microsoft idknbd Jul 10, 2019

You are factually incorrect. And stupid. Don't let your inferiority complex keep you down.

2U fimb6 Jul 10, 2019

Just another entitled man here who reads something like this and ignores all the non-racial ways a candidate can bring diversity to the table. They also talk about diversity in background, Econ class, etc. These are for pre-entry level apprenticeship positions, so not taking anything away from people who have gone to school/leetcoded their way to an eng role. I guarantee these positions pay less than most white/Asian/Indian men would accept anyway.