PoliticsSep 29, 2019
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US Middle Class is losing ground to Canada

Bloomberg published the following article. Do you think this is true? Please share your thoughts. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-08-29/america-s-middle-class-is-losing-ground-to-canada-s

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iStreamPlanet mBCd05 Sep 29, 2019

The MAGA rednecks and the stupidifying of US is one aspect.

Internet Brands clitchaser Sep 30, 2019

They won't even be able to read this.

Google šŸ¦‘dive deep Sep 29, 2019

Yes. It is hard to feel like you are getting ahead and saving for retirement and your familyā€™s future on anything less than a tech salary.

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/dev/null/ Sep 29, 2019

You can only survive in US with FANG TC. I have 140K TC and I'm starving.

Verizon Media Atinlay6 Sep 29, 2019

Fake news

Yelp sJJv80 Sep 29, 2019

Why? Bloomberg not a good enough source for you?

Apple Hansel2 Sep 29, 2019

Anything that doesnā€™t agree with their view of the world is fake.

Microsoft M1Abrams Sep 29, 2019

If you are poor and you vote republican, well I dont feel sorry for your dumbass

Aspect AvKW75 Sep 29, 2019

So will i get richer by paying for everybody's healthcare and education?

Google šŸ¦‘dive deep Sep 29, 2019

You already do, just inefficiently through your insurance premiums and tuition.

Amazon retag Sep 29, 2019

Average Canadian has been better off than the average American for a loooong time. The purchasing power only is a recent development, but universal healthcare has made an enormous difference for the middle class. In the US they struggle with medical bills, in Canada it's a complete non issue.

Wayfair myting Sep 29, 2019

This ^

Groupon sleepy Sep 29, 2019

And the price of medicine and medical procedures?

Microsoft whT? Sep 29, 2019

As an immigrant you donā€˜t feel welcome here... so yes, i believe it...totally...Trump is an embarrassment for this country

Bloomberg offByOme Sep 29, 2019

Why? We make more here, weā€™re just more socially conscious ... weā€™ll leave if and when we want to

Facebook null_user Sep 29, 2019

Pretty sure his statement reflects a strong understanding of nation-states

Zynga parott Sep 29, 2019

For a tech/banking/finance job US >>>>>Canada For everything else Canada >>>>> US Healthcare and student loans is the main differentiator.

Groupon sleepy Sep 29, 2019

Defense related stuff are better in the USA too.

Groupon sleepy Sep 29, 2019

Itā€™s simple merit based immigration starting to work for Canada. Among the US immigrants only 25% have the bachelors while itā€™s 55%+ in Canada. However, Canada doesnā€™t get the capitalism correct. If they can fix it theyā€™ll rock in next two decades.

Facebook null_user Sep 29, 2019

Were you not alive during the Great Recession? When Canada rocked it and the US faltered. Methinks you not understand capitalism

Groupon sleepy Sep 29, 2019

During the Great Recession oil prices were high, hence Canada escaped with relatively less issues. The same is true for Middle East.

Microsoft Tier 1 Sep 30, 2019

Itā€™s easier to grow when your economy is smaller. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

Microsoft whT? Sep 30, 2019

Makes no sense at all

Microsoft Tier 1 Sep 30, 2019

How so?

Google gwM4A7 Sep 30, 2019

There's so much more complexity to the middle class than just household income that the opinion piece skips, not that I'm denyi the middle class is hurting. Are there differences in typical household size? What about unskilled immigrants that Canada filters out? What about retiring boomers moving to fixed income, but are extremely high wealth? Does this metric account for net worth, which may be skewed in Canada by its real estate bubble? Also who let in the HuffPo/Yahoo News riff raff here goddamn.

Amazon t3x Sep 30, 2019

It's always been true that the middle class in Canada is better off. The US has always been better for the wealthy, while Canada has always been better for everyone else. Even when the median income was lower in Canada the quality of life was always higher for the middle class. Better healthcare, less crime, better schools, home ownership, etc. In the US you need to live in a rich neighborhood or pay for private school, at which point you can do better than a typical Canadian public school that the average person sends their kids to in Canada. For the average person the Canadian system is better. Same story on healthcare. Etc.