Uber vs Airbnb offer comparison

Nov 7, 2018 104 Comments

I’m deciding between Uber and Airbnb for my next role. Both offers are for first line managers (EM2 at Uber and M1 at Airbnb). I have 10 years of experience with 3 as a manager. Here are the latest offer numbers:

Uber: 215k base, 75k sign-on (over 2 years), 1.2 mil in RSUs (based on preferred stock price at 72b valuation), 30k target annual bonus, 140k target annual RSU refresher.

Airbnb: 250k base, 90k sign-on, 1.3 mil in RSUs (based on preferred stock price at 31b valuation), 25% target annual bonus (comes to around 63k), 250k target annual RSU refresher.

Assuming roles at both companies are exciting for me, how would you compare the offers?

Also looking for insights around company culture, product execution (have heard Airbnb had some challenges there recently), likely performance after IPO or anything else that you think will be useful. Thanks!

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TOP 104 Comments
  • Netflix Lovers
    I hear there is a big exodus from Airbnb going on. We’ve been getting a lot of applications from them.
    Nov 7, 2018 7
    • Airbnb gunnarcan
      There are strong reasons for it. IPO will almost certainly happen in 2020.
      Nov 8, 2018
    • Netflix ccdsxdt33
      I left Airbnb at the end of 2019 due to very poor leadership, compensation, and overall too much work duplication and politics involved behind the smallest of projects.
      4d
  • Airbnb / Eng InfraHack
    Doesn’t our offer beat Uber at every level?
    Nov 7, 2018 2
    • Facebook Pills
      Uber will IPO in 2019, making their comp more liquid and better than AirBnB.
      Nov 7, 2018
    • Facebook VULp21
      OP
      It does. Looking at future stock growth and learning opportunities as well. I’m not too much of a product person.
      Nov 7, 2018
  • New / Eng uhYr23
    Current TC?
    Nov 7, 2018 12
    • New / Eng uhYr23
      Someone please clarify what DE is.
      Nov 8, 2018
    • Facebook Pills
      @cho Chang - E6 refresh target is $200k for the bare minimum Meets Expectations rating. In practice you’ll get 1.5 - 2x that.
      Nov 8, 2018
  • Facebook VULp21
    OP
    Thanks for all the info! I’ve accepted Uber offer.
    Nov 12, 2018 7
    • Uber / Eng jigcnk
      Welcome
      Nov 13, 2018
    • Groupon
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      butwwhymore
      That Airbnb offer though 🔥🔥
      Jun 15, 2019
  • Oath Xxccx
    Uber just hired a new CFO in August after 3 years of not having one which is a great sign for their ipo. Airbnb does not currently have a CFO as theirs left in February of this year. Airbnb will not ipo without a CFO.

    That said if I was a gambling man I would say the chance of both companies being public within 5 years is very high. With the long term mentality (not just thinking one or 2 years out) I think Airbnb's offer comes out ahead.
    Nov 7, 2018 5
  • Uber / Eng
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    Another area to evaluate on is the engineering challenge.

    At the end of the day, Airbnb is a traditional e-commerce marketplace. The engineering challenge does not seem that deep.

    Compare that to any of the FAANG:
    FB: social graph at global scale
    Amazon: logistics at global scale
    Apple: technology business
    Netflix: content distribution at global scale (15% of bandwidth is Netflix streaming)
    Google: obvious.

    Compare the engineering challenge at Airbnb vs what you’re doing at FB.

    Uber in the other hand has deep engineering challenges:
    * real time location of riders and partners
    * marketplace efficiency
    * real time pricing
    * routing efficiency
    * bandwidth and device limitations in developing countries.
    * real-time distributed systems.
    Nov 8, 2018 0
  • Amazon PAxv45
    Airbnb because i am an Uber hater.
    Nov 7, 2018 5
    • Uber / Ops Hd63gf7
      @zombiezoo your comment above is why people still hate Uber. Stop hating and get back to work
      Nov 8, 2018
    • Don’t parent me H. Tell that to entitled millennial crybabies B is full of. Uber is great. The best I’ve ever worked at. Will never go to any other Corp.
      Nov 8, 2018
  • Bloomberg $ROPE
    That Airbnb offer is pretty damn spicy. My Uber offer (last week) was granted at ~60B valuation, you sure about 76?
    Nov 7, 2018 8
    • Amazon / Eng
      TC++

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      Uber is better generally due to ipo coming up but if you can negotiate that would be great; Airbnb's offer is very good
      Nov 7, 2018
    • Facebook VULp21
      OP
      Uber doesn’t negotiate compensation much anymore. The first thing recruiter mentioned regarding offer expectations (in our first call) is that they are not the highest paying right now; nor do they do much negotiating. So I’m out of luck there.
      Nov 7, 2018
  • Uber / Eng jigcnk
    I think that execution, opportunity and ambition are much better at Uber these days so your equity will likely grow more at Uber than at AirBnB over the next four years. You’ll definitely learn more at Uber. That said, I don’t know your personal circumstances and sometimes that high base matters such as supporting a family. Unless you have a strong reason for preferring the high base, I would opt for growth.
    Nov 7, 2018 4
    • Uber / Eng jigcnk
      The finances look a lot better from the inside. I can’t say more than that other than reiterating that companies lose money before they start making money and we have a clear path to profitability and a long future of growth beyond that. I know more than the average Uber employee but can give more details without de-anonymizing myself.
      Nov 8, 2018
    • Facebook VULp21
      OP
      Yeah, I understand it is difficult to paint a clearer picture for folks outside the company. As long as there is a clear path to profitability and great execution to get there, it should be fine.
      Nov 8, 2018
  • Airbnb RealSlimS
    Am engineer at Airbnb, joined mid 2017, 16 years of experience. It’s easily the best work experience I’ve ever had. Culturally, median age I’d say is pretty young and in mid 20s. I’m in my late 30s and generally the oldest person in any room, but it hasn’t had any negative effect, IMO. Co-workers are awesome, managers are supportive (I love my manager), and product problems are challenging. Culture is excellent.

    Negative is that the monolith at Airbnb is the biggest and and hairiest monolith I’ve ever seen in my life, and I’ve seen some gnarly ones. It’s being decomposed right now and taking away significant amount of resources to break out into services and micro services. I wouldn’t say it’s a Twitter-scale refactoring that they did few years ago, but it is significant enough for an overall slowdown of new product development. This is the number one priority in engineering right now, to pay off years of tech debt, which is going pretty good.

    As for execution, there were couple huge launches where the leadership set the product features and hard deadline before any engineer got to scope it. This led to some product teams to deathmarches and even more tech debt. I wasn’t on these product teams but the people on those teams were not happy. My team is great though.

    Business-wise, we are doing really really well.
    Nov 8, 2018 2
    • Snapchat ssvc28
      How was experience doing? Are eng from this team super busy?
      Nov 12, 2018
    • Airbnb RealSlimS
      There are several subteams on experiences. I know that their infra, platform, and architecture teams are ultra busy. Experience business itself is growing at the same rate as homes did when it launched and is considered a success so far.
      Nov 12, 2018

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