Recently got offer for Uber/coinbase/tiktok, thinking about joining, need some advise on which company/team to choose (detailed reasons are much appreciated!): Uber: 2 potentials teams, frontloaded over 4 year, first year tc 550k, per hr the goal is to keep following years tc >= first year’s. Targeting & Segmentation: platform team, segmenting users and targeting based on rules. High qps, directly supporting ads and other services, smaller team 20, direct product facing. Coinbase: 395k, ML platform, with my ex manager, large scope, but less tc, fixed stock value each year. Tiktok: tc mostly matching uber, but heavier on cash and back loaded over 4 year, ads vertical team, build system from scratch, less diversity, ipo not clear in near term, with the political risks on both sides. G: current tc 450k, next year expected higher before cliff. Think about switching as I feel like growth is slow and bored of the work itself, and the potential drama having to go through while waiting to get L+1, e.g. leadership within a senior heavy team takes longer than expected (even though I’m already a TL for a big part, all other companies offers are L+1). So aiming for better career growth + preemptively optimizing tc before cliff this time. Staying at g will take much shorter time in getting greencard, arguably the most optimized before hitting cliff. Not to mention I have a great track of record for perf and nice teammates. But all of these advantages somehow can’t outweigh my eager to switch for a better growth. Posting to see if anyone had been in the same boat would do. Yoe 4.5 #uber #coinbase #tiktok #google
What position at tiktok?
Shopping ads
I meant role. 2-2?
Go for tiktok, potential stock appreciation
Current valuation at 425b already, the largest Chinese company baba is 633b, fb is 929b. Not that much of upside as I can see, ByteDance it’s parent company already a huge organization with 110k employees. I’m also worried about the content recommendation aren’t being promoted by CN government, and will def affect stock valuation after ipo in HK.
What stock price are they offering at valuation of 425b?
None of those offers seem worth leaving G for. If you're uninterested in your current work, switch teams?
Yeah, looked at some internal job postings too, any recommendations on which org is good for growth right now? I might be happy enough to not worry about cliff if I find something I’m really into. Versus grinding for promo in a mature team is kinda boring tbh, and promo isn’t going to fix cliff either.
Wow . Awesome . Which level in Uber/G
5a/L4
Google level is L4? Jump for L+1?
Yup
I would stay at google and target other preipo
Interesting. I had Google L4 & Uber 5a as well. For me Uber's offer was about 440 (after negotiate) and Google was 280 (I didn't negotiate since the gap was just too high). I chose CB L5.
Thanks! The problem with CB is their RSU policy, fixed yearly grant seems lame, my G tc was mainly pumped cuz of stock appreciation. How long have you joined btw, what perf multipliers did you get, also it’s a pay cut for me compared to G.
I joined about 3 months ago. No performance review yet, but if you search on blind their multiplier is very high and it stacks up. So if you get a 1.5x, your equity will start from 1.5x forever till you get your next bump. You are right about 1 year vesting, but on the other hand you'll never have a cliff.
Yoe 4.5 awesome !! Are you PhD holder ?
Nah, just a casual master
450 is at high band for L4. So wonder if you'll go much further without (L+1) + 1 year (Promo will change the band and then 1 yr for CME -> EE). I'd say go for another company if tc is the motivation.