Undergrad PM hire starting comp

New / Product nasendd
Nov 29, 2019 18 Comments

It’s pretty hard to get a good idea of how much companies pay PM’s that they hire right from undergrad bc usually there aren’t that many/that much info on Glassdoor’s.

I know google’s aPM pays about 124k
I’m wondering if people know, from word of mouth or own experiences what compensation looks like for PM’s/aPM’s out of undergrad? (Uber, Lyft, Microsoft, FB, DoorDash, Spotify, etc)

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  • Amazon 2^blah
    My 2 cents. Don't join straight out of college as a junior PM. You are setting yourself up for a lot of wandering before you get the lead PM opportunity. Rather I would advice you to get expertise in one domain such as SW dev or UX or Data. Once you have one domain that you have the experience to count on, you can leap frog to the PM role that you desire.
    Nov 29, 2019 6
    • Amazon 2^blah
      Yes, I'm suggesting OP build PM skills by taking a detour. PM skills are very different from picking up one domain of experience such as SW dev or UX design. It requires breadth across various aspects of building a product and the know-how. It is difficult to get going and make an impact till you've been through the fire atleast a couple of times.

      PM skills that can be taught are pretty easy to gain. YouTube videos, product school's videos etc. So that part doesnt need experience.

      But the things that cant be taught about PM requires experience, negotiation skills, understanding the tech stack etc. It is tough to gain that without mileage under ones belt.

      For prospective student looking to get into PM, I can only recommend what I would do based on what I know now. You don't have to agree and I don't have to convince anyone. I've given my 2 cents.

      Src: PM for the past 6 years and SW dev before that.
      Nov 29, 2019
    • New / Product nasendd
      OP
      Thanks for sharing, but what I’m hearing also is that you can take time to understand the technical side of things/how things work but you’ll never write any code. Isn’t there an easier way to learn and understand what you need to learn and understand about engineering to be someone great to work with? yes you won’t learn it the same way as if you actually practiced it, but wouldn’t you spend much more time learning some things that might not be as useful or necessary if you went through the effort of practicing engineering?
      Nov 30, 2019
  • Affirm Affirming
    Pretty similar to SWE
    some places pay a bit more, some less
    Nov 29, 2019 0
  • Amazon bing>goog
    DoorDash!? What a dork
    Nov 29, 2019 3
    • New h0r4y
      What's wrong with being a dork?
      Nov 29, 2019
    • New / Product nasendd
      OP
      Wp
      Nov 30, 2019
  • Wish / Product OjEW44
    I think it also depends significantly on negotiating power. Facebook probably wouldn’t care too much about an offer you have from a small startup but that startup might be willing to pay a significant premium for you if they know you’re interviewing with other companies as well, especially FAANG.
    Dec 8, 2019 0
  • Microsoft / Product Simbazo
    Always the case with any industry. Goldman sachs pays the least on wall street. Name discount, because they know candidates will pick them over others even if there is a small difference
    Nov 30, 2019 0
  • New h0r4y
    Get an offer and you will know for sure
    Nov 29, 2019 1
    • New / Product nasendd
      OP
      Believe I’m in the process of getting one, hence the research into comp expectations
      Nov 29, 2019
  • New / Product nasendd
    OP
    Wow thanks for sharing. Surprised to find that smaller firms pay more?
    Nov 30, 2019 0
  • Microsoft / Product Simbazo
    Microsoft 150k negotiable
    Uber 150k NN
    Facebook (around same not sure)

    Smaller firms APM (Dropbox Yahoo) : 175k
    Nov 30, 2019 0

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