Visa, VMware, or Favor?

Aug 30, 2019 43 Comments

I have offers from these three companies in Austin. Which company do you guys think would best prepare me for a software engineering role at a FAANG company? Salary isn't that big of a concern for me, but here are the details so far:

Visa
105k base
10% Bonus
RSU depend on performance (pretty rare)

VMware
105k base
30k RSU
12% bonus

Favor
105k base
3% bonus
5k relocation bonus

This might be worth mentioning: VMware's offer is for their Austin office which they're just starting to expand. It's pretty empty right now. I'd be the only person on my team until more people get hired. I'd be working with people in the Palo Alto office via conference calls. The team is present onsite at Visa and Favor. I only mention this because I'm concerned that working with the team remotely might hinder my growth.

TC 70k
2 YOE

Edit: I was strongly considering Visa before I made this post. After reading all of your responses and seeing VMware's counter offer, I accepted the offer from VMware. Thanks for the advice guys!

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TOP 43 Comments
  • VMWARE >>>>> Visa
    Aug 30, 2019 3
    • I rejected visa offer. Their hiring experience is bad and heard the culture is toxic and full of politics
      Aug 30, 2019
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Oh, I see. Good to know. Thank you!
      Aug 30, 2019
  • New Gned33
    Visa: (100 *1.08 * 4) / 4 = 108
    VMware: (101 * 1.09 * 4 + 25) / 4 = 116

    Plus VMware has a Cloud story and works with Amazon.

    It's a no brainer.
    Aug 30, 2019 3
    • Cognizant mangojuul
      Id think bout it this way, as the office grows you’ll be one of the first guys there giving you a certain amount of clout. I’d be worried only if they weren’t going to expand the team at all
      Aug 30, 2019
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      That's a good point. Thanks for your input!
      Aug 30, 2019
  • VMware XEXC78
    If your plan is to stay in Austin, I’d probably pick Favor, but if you’re looking at Austin as a stop on the way to the Bay Area then VMware is your best choice. Austin has far more jobs than talent so a name won’t make any difference locally. Also, the Dell ownership of vmware is an even bigger negative in Austin since also dell hq here.
    Aug 31, 2019 3
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Favor does not offer stock. Every detail about the offers that I'm aware of is listed in the original post. Favor can match Vmware's base but cant match their bonus and doesn't offer RSUs.
      Sep 1, 2019
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      I'm planning to stay in Austin for a few years, but I do think I will end up leaving the city eventually to pursue other opportunities. So, I guess with that in mind, going with VMware makes sense. Thanks for your input!
      Sep 1, 2019
  • VMware xyz...
    VMware, very good WLB
    Aug 30, 2019 1
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Thanks, I appreciate your input.
      Aug 30, 2019
  • Cognizant mangojuul
    Favor’s service is inferior to other on demand delivery services. I’d go with VM, a real tech company
    Aug 30, 2019 3
    • Google m6r4
      One thing to keep in mind is that there is a big Bay Area bias on this forum... Favor/HEB has a cool new office space on the east side at least. I'd consider them if their offer ends up being good.
      Aug 30, 2019
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Thanks for that. I got an opportunity to tour their office and it's amazing. I really like the team as well. I know I want to work there, but I'm just not sure if it's the best decision for my career. It's hard to not feel like I'm passing up great opportunities at larger companies with more resources.
      Aug 30, 2019
  • VMware doof_s
    VMware probably. Their tech processes/practices/standards will prepare you better for FANG than Visa
    Aug 30, 2019 1
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Very straightforward and to the point. I appreciate it man.
      Aug 30, 2019
  • Apple woodkid
    What are the offer numbers?
    VMware > Visa to prepare you for being a better engineer
    Aug 30, 2019 1
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Updated the post
      Aug 30, 2019
  • VMware doof_s
    You have different numbers in your initial post and latter post regarding VMware offer so which is it? Also do you know what grade you got hired as? Example MTS 1, MTS2, MTS3, MTS4 aka Sr MTS etc.?
    Aug 30, 2019 3
    • VMware / Eng dime_worth
      MTS2 is for a fresh graduate usually. You should ask for MTS3 may be!
      Aug 30, 2019
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Oh really? I'll talk to them about that. Thanks for the heads up!
      Aug 30, 2019
  • Visa / Eng kjzO64
    For Visa it depends on the team.

    The experience on the consumer/merchant focused orgs approximates mid tier tech companies. The rest of Visa approximates a bank.
    Aug 30, 2019 3
    • Visa / Eng kjzO64
      That’s one of the two SVP groups I had in mind for approximating a tech company. That group is responsible for a broad collection of products. The most well known externally is probably Visa Checkout.
      Aug 30, 2019
    • @Kjzo64 - I found some roles I’m interested in. Are you open to referring ?And yeah, you can take a look at my profile and the jobReqs beforehand
      Aug 30, 2019
  • Microsoft WSnc22
    Would you mind sharing what level you got offers for for each company? Like SDE1, SDE2?
    Sep 6, 2019 1
    • Tata Consultancy Services oooff
      OP
      Sure thing. For VMware it was MTS 2 and for Visa it was L5. I was absolutely shocked that Visa would hire someone with 2 YOE for a Senior Software Engineer role but here we are. I didn't get any level info from Favor.
      Sep 8, 2019

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