High TC with Boring Team or Low TC with Awesome Team

NVIDIA
vibrancy

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vibrancy
Apr 4 15 Comments

250k working on a brand new internal test infrastructure at Company A, or 180k working directly on core app features shipped to millions at Apple? (team worked on features that appeared in WWDC and iPhone reveals for example).

Both are new grad offers. Both are MAANG (not Amazon). Not sure what is the play here. 70k is substantial.

Company A has a far superior scope of TC increase quickly too, but does it matter if I don't love what I am doing?

I don't think Apple will budge on offer -- Bachelors here.

Please leave some reasoning below -- Would love to hear from others.

#apple #google #amazon

#engineering #swe #software #advice

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  • Intel
    mEzv64

    Go to company page Intel

    mEzv64
    My take is different, new grad, maximise comp, save+invest and compound it. Later in career be more choosy where you work and can afford lesser focus on TC.
    If team or company culture is not bad, boring is still ok as long as you are learning and growing. Have all your fun, enjoyment and excitement outside work. Plus team cultures can change if folks move around in that company. This 70k extra now might mean you have to work 5+years lesser :)
    Apr 4 1
    • Oracle
      dEkd65

      Go to company page Oracle

      dEkd65
      That doesn't make any sense lol. TC difference is much higher at upper levels between companies. 70K difference will become 200K difference senior level and above. Add to the fact that you prefer good WLB companies and you're left with limited options.

      I'm all for promoting WLB but it's disingenuous to say that you'd end up with the same NW by taking lesser TC jobs after 5+ years.
      Apr 4
  • Amazon / Eng
    SDE#0019

    Go to company page Amazon Eng

    SDE#0019
    Take the offer to Apple and have them match. If they don't, it's clear sign that they don't value you as much (even if you join, they might not give you the meaty portions of the projects), in which case I recommend going with the higher TC offer; 70k is too substantial. Depending on your own growth velocity, 70k can mean 3-5 years worth of work. You can switch teams/company after 1-2 years.

    Your actual happiness also may not be what you expect. Your day to day interactions with people around you, your overall prospects of growth as an engineer, and what you can do outside of work (with the extra money you have) may/likely will contribute much more directly to your happiness than some product vision that may or may not get realized in the timespan that you're there. Team priority and charter can also change at any time for business reasons out of your control.
    Apr 4 0
  • Apple should budge not because you don’t have a masters but because you have another offer letter

    If you’re new grad then you don’t need to maximize TC right off the bat, go where you’ll learn and grow the most which I suspect is Apple
    Apr 4 1
    • NVIDIA
      vibrancy

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      vibrancy
      OP
      Yeah, it's really a question of if that long term "learning" play will really realize to something in the future.

      But also Apple is stingy about that whole bachelors masters thing for some odd reason.
      Apr 4
  • Amazon / Eng
    PippiLangs

    Go to company page Amazon Eng

    PippiLangs
    What's the point of not saying which company is "Company A"? Since we know that it's not Apple and Amazon, that just leaves Google, Meta and Netflix. At Meta you choose your team after you're hired during bootcamp (unless that's different for new grads?), which leaves only Google and Netflix.
    Either way, it would be in your interest to disclose the company if you don't have a good reason not to, because the obvious solution would be to join that company and switch teams, but how fast and easy you can do it depends on the specific company.
    Apr 4 0
  • Adobe
    Smh21

    Go to company page Adobe

    Smh21
    Your base pay is a big deal, especially when starting out. All raises and benefits are based on % of your pay so more is better. If what you’re doing ends up not interesting, then you can always move to something else in the company. You can also leverage your pay for external jobs.
    Apr 4 0