Microsoft: Are linux engineers second class citizens?

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kuuD23

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Jul 17, 2019 39 Comments

From their offer it certainly looks like the case

Yoe: 13 with open source contributions( not marvell)
TC: 300k (Bay Area)
Microsoft offer for L63: 160k/100k 4 yrs vesting/30k
Location: Seattle

This is infact revised offer but I haven’t told them my current yet. But really upset at this offer. I mean yoe, interview performance all means nothing.

Btw, got interview feedback ‘very positive’ after 2 days. Got HM’s email showering all sort of praises for my great interview performance, but then this offer.

And no great WLB, other perks cannot offset this lowball offer.

My majority of interview was behavioral. I was manager in previous job. Have direct reports in current job. Got fair number of LC mediums and got asked painfully deep linux and embedded questions, upto different ISAs and ABIs differences between different archs. What more????

Other Thoughts please!!!

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  • Google
    gentig

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    gentig
    Linux kernel engineer here. Your problem is mostly unrelated to Linux - most Open source contribution lacks tech depth (compared to top-tier commercial alternatives). Another problem is that to exceed 300k some sort of leadership is required, and OSS unfortunately doesn't give you that kind of experience. Tbh there's no significant contribution to be done in my field... They are either solved decades ago or proved inherently difficult.
    Jul 17, 2019 1
    • Marvell
      kuuD23

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      kuuD23
      OP
      My majority of interview was behavioral. I was manager in previous job. Have direct reports in current job. Got fair number of LC mediums and got asked painfully deep linux and embedded questions, upto different ISAs and ABIs differences between different archs. What more????
      Jul 17, 2019
  • Apple
    KGHP41

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    KGHP41
    Your problem is that you’re not negotiating the right way. When they came back with numbers why didn’t you tell them your current comp? Did you get competing offers? If not, those are the two reasons why they’re giving you the crap offer.
    Jul 17, 2019 6
  • Microsoft / Eng
    .,

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    .,
    Looks like L63?
    Jul 17, 2019 7
  • Google
    wkkjy

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    wkkjy
    Linux development engineers are backend engineers. If you got bwtter at leetcoding, you should have no problem getting a FANG offer. I am sayimg this as a backend engineer who has worked at FB and G. TC 350k.
    Jul 17, 2019 6
    • Google
      wkkjy

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      wkkjy
      My wife also worked solely on core C, but that caused problems with interviews as her OOP fundamentals were not strong enough for senior positions. Have you seen similar problems? If so, I would suggest working really hard on OOP and general leetcoding. Best of luck
      Jul 17, 2019
    • Marvell
      kuuD23

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      kuuD23
      OP
      Thanks. I never apply to jobs that require OOP. But got very good in python so have some edge on OOP too now, but I still don't apply to jobs that are OOPs heavy. For FANG I'd suggest Amazon, as a stepping stone though, I have AWS offer, won't join it though, using it as a leverage.
      Jul 17, 2019
  • In my experience, OSS contributions are not seriously taken as major factor. It’s a plus point
    Jul 17, 2019 1