Location: California TC: Sh*t YOE: 1 US citizen SWE This is my 1st job out of college (BS CS) at one of the WITCH (TCS, Infosys, Wipro, etc) type companies. I do not want to put the company name on my resume because it seems like i wont even get an interview because of how bad these names are. Ideally I would like to just put that I work at Apple as a contractor but not specify what the contracting company is. Since I am making it clear that I am NOT an Apple employee, is this OK? Or do I have to indicate that I am employed by a WITCH? Option 1: Software Engineer at Apple (Contractor) Option 2: Software Engineer at Apple (via WITCH) Option 3: Software Engineer at WITCH (Client: Apple) Which of these should I do? My WITCH has not told me any restrictions about naming the client we work for and I see everyone else doing it. Even my Apple manager says it is fine lol. Basically I am trying to go with the option that least emphasizes the WITCH on my resume because it seems like WITCH employees are unhireable based on how much hate they get. The projects here suck and I have learned very little and gotten basically no actual work experience. Everyday I beg for dev work but there is not much to go around other than the usual bug fixes and minor feature enhancements. I was a stupid new grad that took this job instead of working harder for something better and I am paying the price dearly. I am trying to leave Is spending 1 - 1.5 years at WITCH for a first job something that can be recovered from or am I just f*cked? I will work for min wage or even free just to get better dev experience. Thanks for reading and any advice is appreciated.
That’s the problem with consulting model. No one wants to work for them (low salary, not exciting work etc) and when they get someone from offshore then we say H1B is displacing US tech workforce. To your concern you can write : Option 1: Software Engineer at Apple (Contractor) Recruiters will pick your resume and your offer will depend on your leetcode skill
Agree. 1 concern is that it makes it seem like I am a direct contractor with Apple rather than having been hired by a contracting agency like WITCH then being placed on a project at Apple. Do you think its a problem? Also I imagine once background check starts they will want to contact my contracting company and they will find out it is WITCH then
Why don’t you just try it and see what people say? It’s all speculative but I don’t see why someone would care so much to drill down and ask
Option 1 is in your favor. Option 3 is more accurate
Check if Apple has internal guidelines on how contractors can represent themselves. Google had a whole little training module for TVCs and a section on how they can represent themselves.
Apple has no such guidelines as far as I know. My Apple manager is ex-WITCH and thats what he says at least
Option 1
When I was consulting ( not with witch tho ) I would have title , employer , client as three separate columns, not like you said : <title> at <employer> for <client> PS - if you went to use Option 1 then put a “consultant” word in there
Ok, why consultant instead of contractor btw?
I mean whatever your title is at the Client sure ... consultant or contractor
The WITCH companies and their practices are bad but not their employees. It doesn’t and shouldn’t matter to someone hiring that you are from a WITCH company. They just care if you got the skill set or not. I would not worry about naming the company on my resume.
Option 1. You can always give more info later if they ask. Most big companies use contracting houses now, recruiters should understand since many of them start off as contractors too.
Yeah I imagine they will ask eventually for background check purposes. I just don't want it to come off as misleading or anything
Once you are on the background check stage, you already got an offer, and you are not lying anyway.
I’ll go for option 1. Good for your resume and it is a fact
I put mine as job title “[Title] contracted to [company]” I don’t find having the contracting company on my resume causes pause. Every company uses them, and the people who take ownership instead of “just doing the job” should shine through in their resumes.
When you do this, do they ever ask who your contracting company is? This is something they will ask when doing the background check though right?
I’m up front about that, because they will always ask. On LinkedIn I list the contracting company. Some companies are sensitive to you representing that you worked for them when you were not an employee. They can’t DO anything about it, but once you get into an interview, your deception becomes apparent. Better to be honest and talk about the value you brought.
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Option 3. And if you don’t like the current job feel free to leave or find a better job. Stop whining and complaining.