Which experienced hires here have the lowest TC?
Oct 17, 2021
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Every other intermediate or higher engineer here apparently is a borderline millionaire or will be in a few years.
They get talked about enough. What about those near the bottom of the food chain like me?
110 CAD, 4 yoe. In Toronto too so one of the highest col places in the world.
Can anyone beat my trash TC? Underachievers, this topic is for you!
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anyone can get 300K+ with 4 yoe.
work for high-margin internet companies that need to move fast.
just do 100 LC, you’ll suck at first until you start noticing patterns. there’s literally nothing special about faang+ talent. tbh, most of them are pretty mediocre.
tc 2.5-1.2m, 6 yoe
Have dev friends who are happy getting 65-80k CAD because they were making like 40k before in previous career... people here are too mentally anchored to low numbers, and they barely see or hear of anyone clear 100-150k. They think you need some crazy coding skills or many years of experience to "deserve" or be "worthy" of higher tiers of pay, when in reality it just matters which company you're at. Canadian companies have no incentive to pay above market or at anywhere near US-levels, and they'll think you're crazy for asking for that. These days, salaries are trimodal.
Source: more YoE and around same TC as you
90k USD
India has gone a lot ahead in Tc / yoe curve.
Source. Self. 120k. 7yoe
160k USD
L62
I am pathetic.
OCI (Oracle Cloud Infrastructure) pays really good. Not sure if there’s an office in Canada, but I do see a few openings in Vancouver.
Wlb isn’t bad. Definitely less than 40 hrs/week. Oracle stock has grown a lot recently and experts still think its undervalued.
Not sure if they have an office in Canada but I do see a few openings in Vancouver.
@microsoft: they will pounce on you once they know you are in Azure. They really want to up their cloud business so they have been hiring a lot of ppl from AWS and I guess Azure as well.
Please DM me for referrals whoever wants them. Not doing this for referral bonus, so you can keep that as well.
100k euros
Isn't most of this covered by a US tech company?
At least even at my low YoE, I get 21 days.
Employees also pay a fair share of private healthcare costs every month and, even so, aren't fully covered.
Personal anecdote: My wife needed an emergency kidney transplant circa 3 years ago. She was an inpatient for a while, and her stay included over a month in the ICU - like I said, shit happens. Her treatment was tully covered by the NHS (her donor was a family member not covered by NHS so I ended up having to pay the bare minimum to cover the donor's side of the surgery). Every day I count my lucky that I was working in a country with an amazing public healthcare system such as the NHS.
More than that, due to what happened I barely worked for over 6 months; my manager didn't even blink, I was paid full salary while on emergency leave looking after my wife and our children.
If I was in my home country - or in US for the sake of argument - I would probably end up broke and jobless (in US I would most certainly lose my visa status as well). In the UK I never lost my visa nor my job (I'm now a Permanent Residency). Also NHS charged me something that was almost symbolic. I paid around £5k in several installments - and again, I was only charged because the donor wasn't a person covered by NHS.
Call me a sucker, but this is why it's hard to convince me that US TC > European lifestyle.