Weird MSFT interview loop?

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Nov 23, 2019 18 Comments

I'm going on site for an SDE 2 (Level 61) at Microsoft in a couple of weeks and I just got the info for the interview loop. Its 4 interviews, everyone is a Principal Program Manager or Senior Program Manager. Only 2 of them have ever been software engineers, one a sys admin previously, and the other a senior consultant previously. Wtf is going on here? The first interviewer is the same guy that did my phone interview and he was a REALLY great guy, but ofcourse his interview question was leetcode easy because these guys just aren't coding day to day, they're just not that technical. Can anyone shed some light? Also why is the lunch interview given an hour and a half of time?

This is for Azure. I'm expecting the technical aspect of onsites to be a cake walk, like the phone interview was. I'm assuming a heavier behavioral focus than something at a company like Google.

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  • Microsoft / Eng
    god_legacy

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    god_legacymore
    Never underestimate your interviewer. As they say "celebrate the past but don't predict the future". And of course TC or GTFO.
    Nov 23, 2019 1
    • Boeing / Legal
      EternalPIP

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      OP
      Yea I'm not underestimating them, I just did on sites at Google so that was my bar for preparation, I dont think I can under prepare for MSFT as a by product of that.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Cruise Automation ape-polo
    Most likely a bad team. Be very careful.
    Nov 24, 2019 0
  • Microsoft amitguu
    Haha that microsoft team is screwing with you
    Nov 24, 2019 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Rhymie
    If there are no SWEs yet then I'm wondering there is some new product idea and they are recruiting folks to join them. But it's weird that they don't have any SWEs in the larger org that they can use for interviewing.
    Nov 23, 2019 0
  • Microsoft 🦑.🦞.🦐.
    A big part of your job is also collaborating with others outside your discipline like PMs so the ones without SWE experience are prob there to make sure you’re not a prick too. Usually the interviewers are people you’re gonna be working with.
    Nov 23, 2019 3
    • Boeing / Legal
      EternalPIP

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      OP
      Yea they said they're trying to bring on SWEs for this org to change the culture from being largely PMs. I think I'm kinda the first in that transition, so this might just be the team that exists right now.
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Microsoft 🦑.🦞.🦐.
      Sounds like you’ll be fine technically. If I were you, assuming what they said is true, I’d ask questions about what they don’t like about the current culture and how they think adding SWEs will change that for better and worse.
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Boeing / Legal
      EternalPIP

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      OP
      Ok thank you for the advice, I'll do that.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Microsoft iamletired
    Are you interviewing for a PM role? PMs at Microsoft are not particularly technical.
    Nov 23, 2019 3
    • Boeing / Legal
      EternalPIP

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      OP
      No like I said SWE2 level 61. My dad was level 67 at MSFT so I asked him and he kinda said the same thing that you did. The HM said that this org has been primarily PMs but they're trying to transition it to more SWE related.
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Microsoft iamletired
      it doesn't make sense that a SDE loop would be all PMs
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Boeing / Legal
      EternalPIP

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      OP
      It definitely struck me as odd. The last interview is with the higher level business group principal PM. Oh well, no harm in flying out and seeing what happens.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Microsoft Dr.Zero
    Azure what you need to be specific?
    Nov 23, 2019 2
    • Boeing / Legal
      EternalPIP

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      OP
      Dont want to reveal myself in case they actually use Blind, but why does that matter?
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Microsoft Dr.Zero
      Ok DM me, it might be a bad org and they can't find anyone to work for them.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • OfferUp anony2020
    Your other question seems answered, except why lunch interview is of 90 minutes.
    First 30 minutes for lunch and rest one hour for interview with same person.
    Nov 24, 2019 1
    • Boeing / Legal
      EternalPIP

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      OP
      Ahh ok that makes much more sense. Thank you.
      Nov 24, 2019

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