What to expect for Google L7 EM offer

Sep 26, 2019 26 Comments

I passed Google interview and HC at L7 for an Engineering Management role but team matching could take some time and I expect some other offers to come in as well.

Data seems hard to find, but I would appreciate if anyone had some idea about what an L7 offer would look like (base, initial grant, and refreshers).

I did see the Ultimate post but I couldn't tell if those numbers included were base, bonus, plus initial grant,.or also included refresher as well.

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  • Google zOKe30
    The range really is huge at L7, but as a new hire you really get to squeeze google (they have an extremely low rate of hires for L7 or above because there are so few qualified candidates so negotiation is in your power). Anecdotally, management actually gets paid slightly less than pure SWE at L7 but not by a ton. Shoot for above 700k TC and focus more on negotiating higher stock / sign on than on base salary since your base will automatically adjust up after your first yearly review, and salary is more centrally planned at Google than stock (so a lower starting salary will quickly be aligned to normal, but your stock grant is 4 years and won’t be brought up as quickly if not negotiated ahead of time)
    Sep 26, 2019 4
    • Great advice
      Sep 26, 2019
    • Wayfair / Eng BScK77
      OP
      Looks like a match is found and I'll be discussing compensation expectations with the recruiter soon.
      Oct 1, 2019
  • What was the L7 EM interview like?
    Dec 21, 2019 0
  • Wayfair / Eng BScK77
    OP
    Welp, got the offer and was seriously underwhelmed. Still negotiating so not going to give exact numbers but when factoring everything, including refresh, averages to $610k/yr.
    Oct 4, 2019 8
    • Amazon / Eng
      oneleg

      Amazon Eng

      PRE
      Microsoft, Amazon
      onelegmore
      Do you know if you interviewed for M2 and then barely missed it? Blind lore suggests that M1 max is at around 600, so you must be out of band. Sounds like a good deal maybe, because the job will be easy to you
      Oct 5, 2019
    • Wayfair / Eng BScK77
      OP
      No, it was definitely an M1 interview. This is a non HQ location, so it was for a specific role.

      FB was on point. G offered more than 10% less than my ask (I average everything over 4 years just to have a sane comparison). FB offered almost 10% more than my ask. When I countered FB, they also went higher than my counter.

      FB office is much smaller than G office, but both are growing, so I think growth potential is there either way. That said, M2 at FB is probably more likely to happen faster than L8 at G.
      Oct 5, 2019
  • Facebook llp6
    What's your current level at Wayfair?
    Nov 23, 2019 3
    • Facebook llp6
      How did you go from 5 to 7?
      Nov 23, 2019
    • Wayfair / Eng BScK77
      OP
      I was super underleveled at Wayfair. Prior to WF I was a Senior Director at Salesforce

      Edit:. I also have 20 yoe and interview well.
      Nov 23, 2019
  • Microsoft IamClay
    Is lvl7 a director?
    Sep 28, 2019 1
    • Wayfair / Eng BScK77
      OP
      No, one level below.
      Sep 28, 2019
  • Lam Research gurubhai
    Wow congrats. How many YOE and is this SWE?
    Sep 26, 2019 1
    • Wayfair / Eng BScK77
      OP
      Engineering Manager and 20+ yoe.
      Sep 26, 2019
  • F5 Networks RRA
    Did you check Levels.fyi?
    Sep 26, 2019 1
    • Wayfair / Eng BScK77
      OP
      I did, and it's a wide range of.$590k to $998k or something like that. There does seem to be a cluster around mid to high 600's, so maybe that's a place to start.
      Sep 26, 2019
  • Amazon Iuxv66
    Are the offers you got were for roles in the west coast or in the east coast (Boston)? If they were for the west coast, do you think you would get lower offers from FB or G if the role was in Boston?
    Dec 22, 2019 0

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