I'm in my mid 30's. I've held most Eng roles (SWE, EM, PE, Support). I love being an EM, but what I don't love is the pressure and anxiety that comes with the job at certain companies. I don't need a FB level paycheck, and I don't need the startup kool-aid + insane pre IPO equity. What I want is a job where I can get paid a good (again: "good", not "great") amount of money (since I do feel I'm very good at my job), but not have to deal with the insanity of the job. I don't want the anxiety on Sunday nights, I don't want to feel like I can't take a vacation because everyone sees me on the critical path, I don't want to be in meetings 100% of the day to the point I cannot actually help my team. I want to be able to focus on leveling up my team and have the structure to focus on problems without being pulled in a million different directions. Where's the best spot to aim for an EM role at to get this type of WLB and not have to take a significant enough paycut to leave the Bay? From reading posts here it seems like Google might be that type of gig but it also seems hard as hell to get in as an EM there. I have a family and a bunch of things to take care of outside of the office and I'm not ready to Leetcode for 3 months straight and become a "hard problem" expert just to get a job at this point. I will prepare and interview my ass off, but I want it to be representative of what I will be doing on the job. I've also tossed around the idea of working for a company like Microsoft or Disney. I love MSFT tech and I've always been a huge Disney fan and both of those companies seem to have great WLB (although I'm guessing MSFT pays way better). #career #management #wlb #jobsearch #careerdevelopment #tech
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Microsoft is the top WLB company in the world. People who work “a lot” here barely work. I’m a top performer and hard worker in my team. Yet, I work 10% of what I worked at Amazon.
Which org? Azure or other?
I’ve worked both outside and now inside Azure. Each team here has 3 to 5x more people than needed. It only makes things worse: those with a lot of ownership are backstabbed frequently by those in the nepotism circles. You end up joining the country club and relaxing.
Microsoft would be exactly what you are looking for. Google would be hit or miss. ICs can coast but managers getanaged out pretty quickly now.
Docusign
Isn’t LinkedIn exactly what you just described?
I second this
Indeed
Try Intuit, Salesforce and Oracle.
Not true for Intuit anymore on quite a few teams
Nutanix
Stay away from Oracle Cloud Infrastructure
Why?
Poor wlb + most EMs are just lackeys, pushing leadership agenda with no say whatsoever.
Square has pretty good WLB and pay good and you can be full remote. Microsoft is another good option as others have said.
what are the expectations from L6 engineer at square ?
Senior engineer, contribute as an IC. Nothing crazy.
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