Which city you think has the best tech salary to housing cost and living conditions ratio and why?
I will start City: Irvine, CA Weather: Typical California weather if not lesser rain, but sometimes hotter than bay area Pay: For Google, about 10% reduction from bay area (Average L5 TC ~315k) House: 2000+ sqft SFH start as low as 1M in great condition and good school. Lots of new constructions available with diverse price range. Food: Very diverse, and a lots of good restaurants. Personally I think the typical foods are better than Bay Area but less michelin stars restaurants Things to do: Close to beach, Disneyland, lots of hiking trails. Access to domestic airport. Close to vegas. Close to ski resorts (though the resorts are just meh). Commute: Google and business district within 15mins of driving from almost anywhere within the city Cons: Bad night life(although Santa Ana is close by), few tech companies. My 2nd choice would be San Diego for mostly similar reasons. I don't want to start a poll, because higher density cities will just dominate it. What's your choice? #housing
Philly Dirt cheap Still tech city so higher paying Shitty weather Shitty traffic Amazing food Shitty airport
Easy to get a bullet... Where to work besides Comcast? Decent house is not cheap in comparison with local TC
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NYC. You get best in class salaries and you can live in Brooklyn, Queens, Harlem, Upstate NY, or New Jersey for reasonable housing costs. My wife and I make $600k TC combined and have a $4k mortgage on a 2 bed 2 bath with a big private balcony in Brooklyn
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not planning on it lol why do you ask
San Diego is number 1. Apple offering same pay as Bay Area
Wow have any of you lived in Irvine? Cookie cutter boring suburban hellscape. No community. Y’all must be 40.
How is cookie cutter 3000sqft home any worse than 2 million dollars shit house and shit school in bay area? The entire south bay is boring suburban with even less things to do. Or you rather lives with hobos and fecies in SF?
Irvine is the best dude, close to beaches and fun quality neighborhood
Any LCOL city where you can work remotely for a high-paying tech company.
It's dumb to use FAANG TC reduction to do this comparison, since FAANG TCs are so high and the reductions are capped. You might as well just be comparing cities on housing cost and living conditions since you can remote from anywhere with FAANGs now. The more interesting question would be the average tech salary among all companies in the city relative to cost ratio.
The range posted is in line with the average for G employee at that level for the city. Remote from anywhere is the minority for FAANG, and I am saying this as someone who passed FB interview and was later told I can't do full remote.
Why no one is suggesting Austin?
Lol cuz its austin
Joking aside i prefer houston n dallas to austin
If you think a $1M house is a reasonable compromise that's ridiculous. Move to any mid size city. Not one you've heard of, but one people don't talk about much. Many of them are pretty nice.
It's not just about LCOL city. It's about income to housing cost ratio. Finding pure LCOL city in the middle of nowhere is easy, but not most people don't have permanent remote, so tech presence is needed
I'd say Houston is pretty good for this but it's certainly not for everyone. Cool people, cool stuff to do, cheap housing (my 3br in decent neighborhood near downtown is $350k). But lots of people can't stand the heat or lack of nature nearby.
Seattle. Dirt cheap compared to NYC/Bay. No state income tax, tons of jobs with high TC (5-10% lower than NYC/Bay but roughly the same post tax) My only problem is the weather but it’s really individual preference, I am personally okay with it. Also, Bellevue, Redmond, Kirkland are nice too.
Did you really say that Seattle is dirt cheap? Wow.
He said Seattle is dirt cheap compared to NYC or Bay, and that’s correct. If you come to Seattle, you should wfh a month in an Airbnb in Hawaii in the winter months. The tax savings alone will cover it. Summer is gorgeous here.