CompensationMar 3, 2019
Visayooooo

Why do most startups offer relatively low pay for engineers?

I understand they have limited funds in early stage, but it's disappointing. Because there are a few startups that I would like to join, but would need to take a pay cut. This does not include late stage "startups" like Uber or Pinterest of course.

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Chase FloridaMan Mar 3, 2019

Because low strike price for getting in early?

Intuit z9nkay Mar 3, 2019

They don’t have the money. I’m sure Facebook employee number #5 wasn’t making $300k / year.

Credit Karma kqqo46 Mar 3, 2019

Faang + M earn billions in profits each quarter. Quite simply they can afford it. Startups are burning cash. Plus equity gives u a higher upside, so that's the tradeoff

Uber daratk Mar 3, 2019

What does M stand for?

Salesforce ragnarr Mar 3, 2019

Microsoft

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Yesterday- Mar 3, 2019

Depends on the stage and funding. Some startups can be very competitive but it will always be lighter on the cash side. Equity is always like a lottery ticket. It would be great if you wan but the odds are not in your favor. So make sure the cash is enough and make sure you have enough in the bank to be job searching at any point.

LeanTaaS ♥️ data Mar 3, 2019

Various reasons - 1. Engineers working at startups might not be a FAANG material else they would be at FAANG and similar companies. We are talking about Seed, Series A, B, C, with non-unicorn valuation status. Once companies have that status, they dont care about money and more focus on talent because that talent would take them to next level. 2. ISO - they pay in stock options. One of my previous company made me a millionaire because of a successful IPO. In the end, the choice is yours. No one is stopping anyone from joining more stable, high paying companies.

Oracle tamatar Mar 3, 2019

Why pay more when you can exploit for less?

Oracle now@google Mar 3, 2019

That is true for all companies, not just start-ups. Like Oracle, for example.

Oracle tamatar Mar 3, 2019

I know, co-worker! 😉

Two Sigma blinded99 Mar 3, 2019

So in general do startups have less talented people because people who can go into FANG or similar?

Oracle tamatar Mar 3, 2019

Good enough works. FANG has smartest by their benchmarks just like those startups have theirs. They need people who do the grunt work for less.

Qualtrics nglomg Mar 5, 2019

Some people just don't like fang but probably still somewhat true.

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Oracle tamatar Mar 3, 2019

Brilliant! 😁

Google HfSQ81 Mar 3, 2019

Most of the initial engineering work in a startup is grunt work and very random - doing one off features, prototypes, demos for investors, "growth hacks" and so on. Most of this doesn't require high quality engineers or building anything scalable. So, they can get away by hiring relatively inexperienced, cheap, new grad-types who value the experience, the lottery ticket and can impress their friends by telling them they work at a startup. If the product looks like it has traction and they get funding, they can then afford to pay more to hire engineers with experience in building scaled systems.

Amazon jefe_bezos Mar 3, 2019

“Hey we have a million dollars in VC money to build a development team! How many can we get?” “After benefits and free food? Maybe 2.” <business goes under> *pikachu face*