I’m relatively new to Blind, but as far as I know, doesn’t Apple pay a lot less for new grad compared to Amazon (150k in cupertino vs 130k in seattle, not including sign on)? After taxes plus an additional 12k/year in cupertino housing, doesn’t the amazon worker take home a lot more?
Amazon is better than Apple. More interesting projects and options.
Because apples are better than bananas
Been at both. Apple is way better than Amazon: 1. Pay: Apple pays competitive to G/Fb (at least for senior levels), but Amazon is way behind. 2. Wlb at Apple is amazing for SWE (horrible for hardware folks though). 3. Amazon has a lot of awful managers (non-technical, non-professional) who don't have skills to buffer their reports, let alone helping their reports grow. 4. Amazon in general is very frugal in every aspect (no perks, no annual refreshers, etc.) 5. You don't feel you're valued at all at Amazon, while at Apple it's completely different. P.S. I'm not saying Apple is the ultimate place, but in comparison to Amazon it's way better.
I hear Apple has awesome refreshers. Amazon refreshers 👎
Not completely disagreeing with other comments but you have to look at it from other angle as well. Amazon hires a lot and fires a lot. For a company that employed over 600K people even a small number of firing means there are thousands of employees who very salty about the company and usually salty people like to talk shit about the company. That doesn’t mean that Amazon doesn’t have problems, i have personally seen some. But i feel like it has become a trend lately to shit about Amazon once you leave the company.
Fb hires like crazy and fires fast too, but no one talks $hit about it. You need to work at Amazon and at least one more FAANG to understand the huge difference.
See, I don’t think the issue is with the company, it is the toxic managers that have made certain orgs a toxic place to work in, which are the majority of the orgs.
Amazon hires a lot of really low quality non technical managers and give them too much power over very strong engineers, at the same time expect the manager to exercise LPs like Insist on The Highest Standard, Dive Deep, Right A Lot, Ownership that create a lot of conflicts and disagreement with engineers, and then throw in the PIP quota, guess what happen to those that manager disagrees with?
My manager got promoted quickly within Amazon and isn’t technically strong whatsoever.
What org (if you don’t mind me asking)? Is it hard to switch orgs once you’re in?
Amazon has the most toxic culture
So do companies like Facebook and Citadel, but people don’t shit on them compared to Amazon
What does that tell you about Amazon then?