#MeTooApr 1, 2018
UberrIik73

Why do white women not speak up about the lack of blacks and Latinos at tech companies?

Seems like the diversity and inclusion efforts prioritize women.

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Microsoft ZuckB Apr 1, 2018

Give it a rest Uber, first week you are out of the news cycle. Enjoy it.

Microsoft ZuckB Apr 1, 2018

I know for a fact that uber has diversity programs specifically for African American men (e.g. Hidden Genius program). How about you educate yourself some about what’s on the offer first instead of making troll posts about white women in a lame attempt to provoke?

Intel Jo媽媽 Apr 1, 2018

But Uber hired an awesome token in BOZOma. Hope she again awkwardly tries to get white SWE nerds to dance to "Rapper's Delight" in her next keynote about diversity. Maybe switch it up to "It's Raining Men."

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kzXF10 Apr 1, 2018

It’s probably because they’re too worried about the existential threat posed by Asian women to do anything else

Microsoft wlb Apr 1, 2018

Why would they?

Uber rIik73 OP Apr 1, 2018

I guess I'd say, in addition to my comment below, why would they not? This is a question rooted in my desire to understand not be combative.

Microsoft wlb Apr 1, 2018

Why would [Race X] [men/women] not speak up about lack of [Race Y] [men/women] in tech? Answer: Because there is no reason to speak up on this.

Uber rIik73 OP Apr 1, 2018

I think it is odd for one group to advocate for the end of unfairness in pay, access, treatment, etc., and do it in a way where it only helps them. It feels hypocritical. I'm just trying to understand it. Blacks and Latinos have it worse than women and I find it striking that plenty of white men are championing gender equity exclusively within the context of diversity. Personally, I've been a strong advocate for all groups that I feel aren't being treated fairly. But when I mention underrepresented minorities, I find the enthusiasm in the room vanishes. Shouldn't we all be focused on fixing every aspect of these systemic problems?

Expedia 🐈 poop Apr 1, 2018

You’re missing the point. The group doesn’t advocate on behalf of white women only. You don’t automatically sign up for KKK as a part of the deal. Women’s rights movement has historically paved the way for human rights movements, anti segregation and gay rights movements and basic human rights movements -these have all used the same gameplan. Women are the largest “minority” as far as rights go. As the largest minority , once it establishes a pattern and breaks a barrier, it’s easier to follow through that pattern for everyone else.

Uber migRI89 Apr 1, 2018

^ some very good points, Expedia. If people always trying to advocate for 'a bigger group', then where do u draw the line?? Everybody would be screaming they want yelling world peace... Sometimes it is good to start small and be specific and give concrete examples in order to get what you want...

Compass FUPayMe Apr 1, 2018

Same reason most of them voted for trump... they don’t care.

Uber rIik73 OP Apr 1, 2018

Do you think that true in places like the Bay Area? I don't think many white women in the Bay Area voted for Trump. 😏

Compass FUPayMe Apr 1, 2018

Go check the stats. More than 1 in 3 women voted for him

Uber rIik73 OP Apr 1, 2018

Usernamei - perhaps "delusional" was the wrong choice of words. I apologize. As jsrisky point out, blacks and Latinos are under represented by a significantly greater degree than Asian women. I'd like to understand your perspective. Do you feel Indian and Asian women from Say China are treated differently in tech companies? I do notice there are more Indian women in eng mgmt roles than say women from China. Is that an accurate observation in your opinion?

Uber migRI89 Apr 1, 2018

Do you know what a typical Indian couple (let's say both in tech) chat about at home after work?? Don't wanna say much here, but that might give you some insights... you see, it also depends on how badly you want to move up and if you are willing to do what it takes to move up...

Google bikeshed Apr 4, 2018

@migRI89 now I'm curious. What do they chat about?

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MLYX13 Apr 1, 2018

Maybe because job positions are not Halloween candy that’s supposed to be shared equally among all the kids? Continue pushing this flawed narrative and you will ruin everything for everyone. The sad truth is that even the current levels of diversity are achieved unfairly, and it’s already very obvious that ridiculous incompetence can hide behind skin color or gender.

Facebook interloop Apr 1, 2018

You have no evidence for your claim that the current levels are achieved unfairly. I've seen some ridiculously incompetent white and Asian males in almost every tech company. This percentage doesn't increase for other groups it seems to me you already believe it so you only remember the cases that reaffirm your thoughts.

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MLYX13 Apr 2, 2018

Yeah I’m not talking about the people you know personally, I’m talking in aggregates. Your sentiment proves I’ve hit the sore spot though, regardless of whether you like the reality or not.

Facebook interloop Apr 1, 2018

I see some white women speak up about the lack of blacks and latinos. I fail to see why this matters. Speaking about gender discrimination helps all races. And to believe in the active discrimination of females you also have to believe in inherent bias. Which speaking out against also helps all races.

Facebook interloop Apr 1, 2018

I think you're expecting too much from private companies. They will never be able to fix our countries decades long problem.

Facebook interloop Apr 11, 2018

The idea that campaigning for women's rights means white womens rights was true in the 1900s. It doesn't have to mean that anymore. If you continue to separate their movement from the one of complete equality you won't make as fast progress. You can both argue for women's rights and for privilege to stop existing. It's not a binary choice and especially now it's important we fight for everyones equality.

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OaGdEa Apr 1, 2018

Tech was better before the PCification of it.