Why folks at Facebook defend their company too much?

Jan 31, 2019 186 Comments

We all know Facebook is a cancer to society. They are just evil scumbag. They don't have any moral or ethical values. They just treat their customers are mere products. They don't see them as humans. For them we are just a piece of data.

Recently Apple revoked their enterprise certificate. If I comment anything in support of Apple bunch of FB employees come and bash me. I can't understand this. Just because you work for a company you don't need to support their evil things. Does Zuck give them any kind of additional bonus for defending the company ?

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  • Uber yTzY24
    Facebook is pretty innocuous compared to e.g. tobacco companies whose products literally do cause cancer, or PG&E who periodically incinerate folks’ houses.

    The defensiveness of FB employees seems proportional to the level of ludicrous hyperbole in posts such as yours.
    Jan 31, 2019 6
    • pretty innocuous?! so affecting the lives of millions through data manipulation is no big deal? sure, its not as shocking and blunt as cancer but please do not downplay facebooks actions that affect us all in some form. We are talking about a company that has billions of users that can be mind controlled through a simple algorithm change.
      Jan 31, 2019
    • Oracle Kirby123
      Suicide rates for teen girls tripled as social media usage soared. Thanks, Cuckerberg!

      http://www.businessinsider.com/us-suicide-rate-increased-since-2000-2018-6
      Jan 31, 2019
  • Apple
    niXC18

    Apple

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    niXC18more
    Nobody seems to see the value FB brings to the world. For starters, Facebook is enabling 80M small businesses feed themselves and hire more jobs due to more business that’s being driven through ads. WhatsApp is the only end-to-end encrypted messaging app that’s available on all platforms that developing countries are living on. Facebook is the only company that helps you stay in touch with and get updates on friends that you don’t see everyday but care about. I agree Facebook is not perfect and it makes mistakes but a privacy leak that exposes your cat photos is nowhere as serious as Equifax or Cathay Pacific leaking your SSN, credit history or passport info. No one seems to care about that!
    Jan 31, 2019 11
    • Amazon alcoholic
      OP
      @niXC18. You can't keep bug and international mining of kids data in same sentence. The two Apple bugs you mentioned, Apple did their best and handled the situations brilliantly. Bugs are a part of software life cycle.
      Jan 31, 2019
    • Apple
      niXC18

      Apple

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      niXC18more
      @alcoholic: if you have to build apps for the next generation of people, you have to learn about them and you do that by conducting user-studies. Using a certificate outside of policy without checking with legal or reading the fine print due to ignorance is a bug/complacency, even if not a software bug. This is where FB made a mistake.
      Jan 31, 2019
  • Compass / Eng
    FUPayMe

    Compass Eng

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    FUPayMemore
    Stockholm syndrome
    Jan 31, 2019 0
  • Facebook XDPH45123
    We defend the company because employees are treated like human beings and because the platform has done a lot of good. See giving tuesday as one small example. The better question is why aren’t more amazon, Microsoft, intuit, compass company employees proud of where they work and why do so many of them attack other companies out of insecurity? And why do they apply in mass to Facebook?
    Jan 31, 2019 5
  • Facebook XDPH45123
    OP’s name checks out
    Jan 31, 2019 8
    • Compass / Eng
      FUPayMe

      Compass Eng

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      FUPayMemore
      Please explain how compass is problematic.
      Feb 1, 2019
    • Facebook public2
      Not sure I was defensive? I was pointing out there is no need to be defensive.
      Feb 1, 2019
  • It’s not about the money/stock price. It’s about the blatant invasion of privacy and psychological damage (both mostly unbeknownst to its users) which is what makes it so deplorable.
    Feb 1, 2019 51
    • Facebook dollahbill
      I fundamentally disagree with you that it’s the same principle and so do hundreds of millions of Facebook users who would quit the site if we actually sold information instead of ad targeting.
      Feb 1, 2019
    • Facebook dollahbill
      And it’s worth noting Apple did the exact same fucking thing with iAd. You collected user data and used it to target ads. Well, not the same thing because you sucked at it and shut it down, but the same principle.
      Feb 1, 2019
  • Cult mentality
    Jan 31, 2019 5
    • Puppet pqXV61
      working at fb being a point of pride for someone is a huge red flag tbh
      Jan 31, 2019
    • Microsoft / Eng MissingNo.
      Jerking off to a picture of Mark Zuckerberg every day to demonstrate my pride
      Feb 1, 2019
  • Facebook / Eng
    fb2017

    Facebook Eng

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    worked at Oracle, then Google, now Facebook.
    fb2017more
    As long as I get paid double as you, who cares.
    Jan 31, 2019 11
    • Apple
      niXC18

      Apple

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      niXC18more
      @alcoholic: please read some other articles for a clear timeline. The research app has been released off-app store since 2016, long before the VPN app Onavo was asked to be removed from the App Store.

      They have not removed it from the Play Store since Google is still ok with it as it sees nothing wrong with users choosing to download and use it.
      Jan 31, 2019
    • Microsoft / Eng MissingNo.
      This is the only honest answer. Everyone else is doing mental gymnastics.
      Feb 1, 2019
  • Amazon alcoholic
    OP
    So you guys don't care about ethics? I think you guys care just about money. Money is not always important. Someday you guys will realize. Really Facebook guys are arrogant and care only about TC.
    Jan 31, 2019 6
    • Facebook / Eng
      fb2017

      Facebook Eng

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      Google, Oracle
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      worked at Oracle, then Google, now Facebook.
      fb2017more
      Facebook is just a platform where anyone can post news or opinions. The fake news media are different. They intentionally twist facts and report fake news.
      Jan 31, 2019
    • Apple / Eng Apple Park
      Wait. So let me guess - the only fake news is negative news about FB.

      Keep going, this is rich... 😆
      Jan 31, 2019
  • Qualtrics / Eng codetastic
    As usual, The Onion puts it best: “Facebook Employees Explain Daily Struggle Of Trying To Care About Company's Unethical Practices When Gig So Cushy”

    https://youtu.be/-DiBc1vkTig
    Jan 31, 2019 0

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