Microsoft offer and experience

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Aug 21, 2021 31 Comments

I have 3 yoe of experience in India and 1 yoe in US. Microsoft is offering me l61 - 140k base, 35k sign on, 120k rsu, 10-20% bonus and told this is the max they can offer. This is much lower than my current comp and I have a better offer from a big fintech company in the East coast but Microsoft won't consider fintech as competing offer. When I asked for uplevel to l62 on basis of my yoe. HM told me although my interview performance was good, however my counted yoe is only 1 year in the US. And since I have a masters, so l61 is the appropriate level for me. I had a very competitive fintech engineering role in India (comp was 40 lpa) and I do value my experience there. I talked to a friend/ colleague from my company back in India who came to US for masters along with me and he was offered l62 on basis of 3 yoe in the fintech company right after graduation. College education is very similar too, same branch IIT undergrad and similar top university in US grad. Why is my experience being discounted then? I feel very disappointed and downlevelled and a loser. Do I even consider negotiating? I have only given 4 interviews so far and received 2 offers. Or should I keep hustling and try for better? Wlb sucks so don't want to stay in amazon longer but perf is good, so no immediate worries of pip/ focus.

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  • Walmart
    Crash&Burn

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    Crash&Burn
    India experience is only to get you in the interviews but as far as I have seen. Only US experience is considered in most companies.
    Aug 21, 2021 3
    • I think its simple, you are not as good as your friend.
      Aug 21, 2021
    • Amazon
      ultiloser

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      And how do you judge that if my interview was perfect, our colleges are similar, GPA was 4.0/ 4.0 (both of us) and his previous work exp is a subset of mine? Oh, I realize the most important thing, our genders are different. I am definitely not as good as him!
      Aug 21, 2021
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    rand14fh

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    rand14fh
    They cant meet your current comp? Why will tgey meet competing offer then?
    Aug 21, 2021 4
  • For l61 the offer is solid(assuming redmond is your location). If you want more the only option is l62. Ideally they should consider your india’s experience as well.
    Aug 21, 2021 1
    • Visa
      hqwcvb

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      hqwcvb
      At Microsoft, what level is New Grad Hire after Master’s? What level is new grad hire plus 4 yoe in the US?
      Aug 21, 2021
  • Oracle
    Hakunaa629

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     Hakunaa629
    Was in the same boat few weeks ago, I’m pretty sure this is through their BS hiring event where they mass recruit like they’re recruiting for BS positions where no one will apply willingly. All internal teams with BS work and even BS tech stack. Don’t fall for the brand name, just move on. I moved to a different company and with no regrets. You’re fair in your demand but they won’t budge bechare they hiring you for a BS role and they are sure someone who has desperation will definitely join them. It’s also not going to be good for your resume. DM me if you need pointers
    Aug 21, 2021 0
  • Just keep interviewing man. Microsoft does not pay well. I had a similar TC for L60 with just 1 year US experience and a mediocre US college MS. What they can do is increase your stocks to 200k but not move the base at all.
    Aug 21, 2021 4