Yet another Indian 'US visa' post

Dec 29, 2019 86 Comments

Looking for advice from my fellow desis struggling with this problem. I'm looking to either move to the US or the UK internally through Amazon in Q1 2020. Since I manage a small team, I will most likely get L1A or Tier 2 General visa respectively. As per current rules, the UK Visa offers a lot more stability, and helps me plan my future better for me and my fiance.

However, the salary in the US and COL (30% + difference) makes it a much more attractive option, so I'm keen to understand my options there. Should I get an L1A visa, and assuming it takes 5+ years to get a GC, what are my options until then? If I get the i140 done in 18 months, is it easy to switch jobs and keep my GC application intact? I can get an H1B visa after that without any cap, right?

I've tried a lot to Google this stuff, but can't get a proper answer anywhere. Really hoping someone here can help.

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TOP 86 Comments
  • Avanade / Consultant gitPullAll
    Glad I’m a citizen cuz these visa posts are cringe
    Dec 29, 2019 2
    • Amazon parbdji
      OP
      Good for you man, thanks - never occurred to us that you guys have it better, I'm glad you dropped by to let us know
      Dec 29, 2019
    • Avanade / Consultant gitPullAll
      Anytime
      Dec 30, 2019
  • Microsoft kick9
    You can’t switch jobs on L visa.
    H1B is pure luck these day. I have seen people not getting picked for 5 consecutive years. US visa is a mess for Indian citizens. If I were you, I won’t waste my time for US.
    Dec 29, 2019 11
    • Microsoft kick9
      Lol. .. assuming amazon doesn’t PIP you while on L1 and you win H1b lottery, it’s something :)

      I think you have a better chance of winning a LOTTO
      Dec 29, 2019
    • Microsoft kick9
      The moment you switch to H1b, you will need to switch to Eb2 (150 year wait in GC line for India born)
      Dec 31, 2019
  • Credit Karma Pizza🍕🍕
    Just to clarify OP, I-140 has nothing to do with switching jobs for your last point.
    You CANNOT switch employers on L1 visa, nothing can change that not even approved I-140.
    To change employers, you need to change your visa from L1A to H1B only then you can change jobs.
    L1A wait time is 5+ years for India born, you cannot be optimistic it might even get retrogressed. Also, if you switch to H1B to switch employers, forget EB-1. Chances are you might lose EB-1 eligibility and other employer will file your GC in EB-2 (150 years wait). US employment based immigration is nightmare for Indians and there is no hope in sight that this might change, it will only get even more worse.
    Dec 29, 2019 34
    • Amazon parbdji
      OP
      And a lot of people here seem to be suggesting that GC in 5-6 years is far from a sure thing
      Dec 31, 2019
    • Credit Karma Pizza🍕🍕
      It used to be
      Unfortunately even EB-1 is backlogged now for Indian origin. Your PERM is yet to be filed, it will take 1.5 years so your PD will be 2021.
      I don't think 5 years is sure shot. 5 years is being too optimistic, count 8-10 years easily
      Dec 31, 2019
  • Facebook ehdgu3t
    L1A get green card in 6months to 1 year
    Dec 29, 2019 6
    • Symantec / Eng neshama
      Honestly would take Europe over USA because of the reasons I gave before. For those of us who have ailing parents in India, a 10 hour flight is better than a 19 hour flight.

      But these are personal choices, hence I refrained from putting those in your equation.
      Dec 29, 2019
    • Amazon parbdji
      OP
      Yeah I won't let that affect my decision. I'm happy to take a longer flight when I need to (used to it by now, have to fly to Seattle every quarter for work), can't let that affect my entire life
      Dec 29, 2019
  • LinkedIn U💰S💰D
    US >>> UK. After a few years when you have GC you are golden
    Dec 29, 2019 5
    • LinkedIn LeetKing
      That’s not how it works. They need to be a ‘manager’ outside the US for at least a year to move from EB-2 to EB1-C.
      Dec 30, 2019
    • Yes many people have gone by choice and some forced to go due visa rejection for services company . It easily fills up 2800 quota including dependents for India even if 2-3% move back international country
      No wonder dates stuck at 2015 fit last 1-2 years due to porting
      Dec 30, 2019
  • Symantec / Eng neshama
    I agree with kick9.

    If the UK is giving you a tier 1 then it is better to go there.

    But I heard that they have stopped giving PR as well.

    The 30% pay difference is balanced by the following in my opinion:

    1. Lower cost of living than many cities in usa
    2. Proximity to India, a 10 hour flight gets you home.
    3. Free health care.
    Dec 29, 2019 5
  • Intuit sydney
    Don’t come to the US. You will regret it. Difficult to switch jobs, travel, you are not getting anything in 5 years.
    Once you settle down in US moving to another country may not be easy and you will be in limbo like us.
    Dec 30, 2019 0
  • If you are on L1, you are their slave!!
    Dec 29, 2019 0
  • Dude if the current law does not change, you won’t get EB1 GC even in 10+ years. Sorry to burst your bubble but please don’t make naive assumptions as getting GC in 5 years!
    Dec 30, 2019 3
    • Credit Karma Pizza🍕🍕
      I think this is true.
      Even Ph.D holder research based extraordinary talent GC in EB-1 is backlogged for more than 7 years
      Dec 30, 2019
    • Oracle fGqP38
      Mind sharing the calculation as to how did you arrive to 10+ years of wait time?
      Jan 2
  • Zynga DORw15
    Go to the US (if you get a L1-A) and see if you get your GC in 5 years.If not move to the UK later (fairly easy if your working for a large company with a UK office)
    If not move to the UK directly.UK is a very good “number 2” option to the US.Sure your career options will be lower and money will be lower but it’s a far far better place than Canada,Australia,Germany etc
    Dec 30, 2019 3
    • Zynga DORw15
      In Canada you cap out too quickly career wise and the weather is horrid.
      In Germany you may not be able to advance into management without fluent German.
      UK probably offers the best balance of long term career opportunities, weather, travel and money.
      Dec 30, 2019
    • Amazon parbdji
      OP
      Fair enough, thanks for that perspective
      Dec 30, 2019

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