How does the Executive Director role at Morgan Stanley compare to a Staff Engineer role at G or FB?
Dec 11, 2021
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I know they are completely different roles and hard to compare, but would like to understand the difference in terms of career growth. If someone joined Morgan Stanley 10 years ago and is now an Executive Director, is it the same or better as being an E6 after 10 years from joining Google or Facebook.
Why do I ask? Because I am bored to death and rather than have fun going out on a Saturday night, I am introspecting and laughing at the fact that I was feeling sooo low for flunking IIT JEE in 2007.
But why ask about Executive Director at MS? You may have guessed it right, AIR 1 of 2007 is an Executive Director at MS, that's why 🤣
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Associate/AVP - 2 to 7 yrs exp - individual contributors
VP - Sr Engg Manager/Architect/technical Leads - a VP could be reporting to another VP. Highest level VP is typically sr engg manager.
Sr VP- some banking companies have Sr VP - that’s typically group manager some companies only go up to VP before director role
ED - Director of Engineering up to Sr Director if engineering. Staff size can be 0 to 300 or so.
MD - all rest levels are MD. There could be 4-5 level MDs. First level MD could have 1k-2K or so org size. First level MDs sometimes also go for M2 or D1 at FAANG. But life is pretty good at MD so you don’t feel to disrupt it.
So if you look at the role of ED, you look at equivalent of Director or Sr Director in non-tech firms or tech firms that are not that big. If you are in FAANG etc, an ED would be Sr Engg Manager in FAANG. I have not seen EDs taking up staff engineer roles but they do pick up M1/M2 roles at FAANG.
Depending on group/company but generally VP levels are the most laborers/long hours and most resilient.
In banks once you get to MD you feel you have made it.