New Grad - Amazon or Microsoft + Negotation
Hello,
Looking for advice for my new grad offers.
Amazon (return)
Location: Seattle
Base: 120
Sign-on: 37.5 yr1 /23 yr2
RSU: 88k (5/15/40/40)
TC: 161 first / 155 after
Team: Devices (not-alexa)
Microsoft
Location: Atlanta
Base: 105
Sign-on: 25
RSU: 130 (25/25/25/25)
bonus: 0-20%
TC: 162 first / 137 after (without bonus), 173/148 (with 10% bonus out of max 20%)
Team: Azure core
Considering COL + MS 401k match, I think MS is probably a stronger offer. I know Azure has worse reputation in comparison to the rest of MS, but the people I talked to in the interview made it seem like a pretty decent WLB. Not too sure on learning potential or how interesting the work would be though. My team at Amazon seemed alright as well in terms of WLB, and I think it had good opportunities for learning and interesting work.
Is it worth negotiating with MS and if so, what should I ask for? Also, thoughts on MS vs Amazon for WLB + career progression? I'd like to learn a lot, but I am risk averse (don't want pip).
If anyone knows anything about the Azure core team in particular, I would definitely like to know more about them in general as well. Also, I would like to know if I should try to negotiate at all.
Thanks!
#software #engineering #swe
comments
The whole learning thing is BS, I personally think. Every company will present you with unique learning opportunities.
(Interned at AWS and Azure)
1. Amazon has less granular levels, which means you can climb up to senior faster.
2. Better professional growth in Amazon since you work more. You are too young to rest and best with the rest of the WLBs(the weak, the lazy, and the bullshitters) at Microsoft.
For two reasons:
A) they are good feeder for the open positions they have
B) they are paid less as compared to their level so more likely to churn.
Microsoft tech stack is boring if you are not working with azure products
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You want supportive team especially you are starting your career.
You canโt afford a kick at least less than an year imo.