Microsoft Offer - Low ball - How to negotiate?

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gsOL13

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Oct 29, 2021 10 Comments

Applied for a Sr/non Sr Customer Engineer role on the federal side. I've 11 years experience in the field and they offered the following below. Recruiter verbally said they could easily hit $250k TC, maybe more, below it looks like the first year will be $230K, year 2/3/4 probably around $205-215k after target bonus and RSU

$155k Base
$25k Sign on
$50k on hire stock (4 years)
15% yearly bonus for holding clearance (percentage not in offer, but bonus is unofficially stated, percent can be found online)

Target performance bonus seems like its 10%, since i was offered a Customer Engineer role (Not Sr, therefore i believe this is a Level 62 position).

How do i get them to get me closer to that $250k+ TC number? It seems i have a low on hire stock. Recruiter said id probably get $75k on hire, i was hoping to negotiate to $100 to $125k on hire, but they started me at $50k on hire. #microsoft #offer

EDIT:
Turns out she says the target bonus is 20%, so $31k target
TC would be $246,750

After 1st year that drops to $221,750, plus i'd have to travel a good bit.

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  • Microsoft / IT
    rodgort

    Go to company page Microsoft IT

    rodgort
    If it’s for 62 and $50k stock per year, this is in the high band already. You might wanna negotiate for 63 or 64 instead since your YOE qualifies for those levels.
    Oct 29, 2021 2
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      gsOL13

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      OP
      I asked for a 63, gonna hear back next week, but idk if they will budge on the stock at that point
      Oct 29, 2021
    • Microsoft / IT
      rodgort

      Go to company page Microsoft IT

      rodgort
      Yup good luck OP. It’s better if you have a competing offer to negotiate with. Or point out if there’s any unvested sum of stock/401k or any projected bonus you’ll be missing out. I heard negotiating for another level is harder but you never know til you try.
      Oct 29, 2021
  • 50K RSUs per year or over 4 years?
    Oct 29, 2021 1
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      gsOL13

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      OP
      Yup, and i just got off the phone with the recruiter and she told me that 2 days ago MSFT just said they wont be accepting any counter offers, this is the final offer.

      This kinda blows my mind.
      Oct 29, 2021
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    xqs48b

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    xqs48b
    It sounds pretty low for 11 years of experience. Is it in Seattle or other locations?
    Oct 29, 2021 1
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      gsOL13

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      gsOL13
      OP
      Denver, but work is remote
      Oct 29, 2021
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    kdc834

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    kdc834
    What'd you end up getting? I knew I could've negotiated another round but wanted out of my current company. But now I feel super low balled.

    140k, 40RSU, 12k sign on, with 0-30% bonus and 0-37k in stock annually
    Dec 9, 2021 1
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      M€LIODAS

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      Where you based out of
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  • Can you share your interview experience?
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