Offer evaluations

Amazon
cap90

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cap90
Nov 13, 2020 38 Comments

Hi blind,

I’m evaluating a few offers and wanted your thoughts and opinions. Currently a L5 at Amazon in Seattle and want to relocate to NYC eventually. TC 2020 was about 250 (after stock inflation), expected TC 2021 is 200

Uber
Uber eats growth org
L4
50k signon (25 yr 1, 25 yr2)
~300k before signon

Twitter
ML cortex
SWE 2
25 signon
~290 before signon

Lyft
In team match now but in nyc just got a scooter and bikes growth team, teams were better in SF
L5
No official numbers yet due to team match but initial estimate before any negotiations is 190k base, 165k stock
~355 before signon

Facebook
No team yet but waiting to hear what orgs are in NYC
E5
No numbers at all yet

Google - still waiting to hear back but I interviewed for L4 and I doubt they’ll bump me to L5.

Are there any particular numbers I should be aiming for from Lyft and fb? Any benefits to joining at top of sde2 band over sr role? To me uber seems like it’s got more business verticals than Lyft but Lyfts comp will def be more and the level is higher.

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  • Hearing layoffs at Lyft. But maybe that’s not in engineering. I would choose between FB and Twitter. FB E5 should substantially beat Twitter and all the other offers here. On a side note, I got the exact same offer at Salesforce as you did at Twitter 😀
    Nov 13, 2020 3
  • You should be able to get a 205/600/100 offer from FB. Let them know that Lyft is paying you 200/800/30.
    Nov 13, 2020 6
    • Amazon
      cap90

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      cap90
      OP
      What’s the annual raise for E5 look like? I assume whatever comp I negotiate that’ll be pretty much what I can expect to make until another promo? And are the initial Lyft offers much higher? I just figured Lyft gave me a lowish offer expecting negotiations.
      Nov 13, 2020
    • Haven't been long enough to know about raises but a meets all rating will give you 140k split over 4 years every year. That would make it a 35k increment YOY increase.
      Nov 14, 2020
  • Uber
    banana69

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    TC or gtfo
    banana69
    Great L4 offer from Uber. FB seems like the best choice. Uber has low morale with people leaving left and right, which could lead to poor WLB. Idk about the situation at Lyft (seems like they’re having another round of layoffs). Twitter fumbled their last earnings report when every other social media company crushed it. Google is good, but they might not be able to match FB E5.
    Nov 13, 2020 4
    • Amazon
      cap90

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      cap90
      OP
      How did they choose who to lay off btw? Was it entire orgs or was it like bottom performers at all of uber?
      Nov 13, 2020
    • Uber
      banana69

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      TC or gtfo
      banana69
      I observed that the people who were let go were in roles that were already well staffed and could’ve used some redundancy reduction anyway. I very rarely saw entire orgs sacked with the exception of Jump (which was sold to Lime). Take that with a grain of salt though as I didn’t see the full scope of the layoffs. To add to my last reply though, there are lots of opportunities to do high impact stuff within Eats.
      Nov 14, 2020
  • Google
    ov3hyg

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    ov3hyg
    What is your yoe?
    I would choose Facebook as e5 will be highest
    Nov 13, 2020 3
    • Apple
      Tuy

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      Tuy
      Any tips on organizing things so that all the offers come in at the same time and you can use them to negotiate against each other? How did you pull it off?
      Nov 13, 2020
    • Amazon
      cap90

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      cap90
      OP
      I was burned out from wfh so began planning this and doing lc around like April. I then reached out to companies around early august and did all my phone screens in sept, and all my onsites in October. Because I set aside all of sept do phone screens I was able to accommodate companies who contacted me later. For the most part it worked, but some companies still got back to me really late (one company just msged me this week even though I applied in august).

      I will say some companies where you interview w a team directly like msft got back to me way sooner after my onsite and I didn’t time those well. In theory you should do all team matching companies like Lyft and google early, but I did my onsites in order of how much I wanted the job.
      Nov 13, 2020
  • All great offers, you maybe be able to bring some of them up with negotiations. Can you share your experience interviewing for MLE on Cortex at Twitter?
    Nov 14, 2020 1
    • Amazon
      cap90

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      cap90
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      It was pretty standard coding, design, behavioral. There wasn’t suppose to be any ML specific questions according to the recruiter but for the second part of my design question as a follow up they got into asking me about designing a ML system (whether to use supervised or unsupervised learning, where the data would be stored, where the data would come from, how the model would be stored, etc).
      Nov 15, 2020