amazon vs doordash offers comparison
Please help me evaluate these offers from amazon(seattle) and doordash (SF). My current TC at MSFT Seattle is around ~225 k. I am at level 63 (recently promoted) but I dont like my work and the product I am working on. I have 5.5 years experience in total. amazon (sde 2) 160 K base 100 k joining bonus (50 + 50) ~250 k stocks doordash (e4) 170 k base 10 k joining bonus ~250 k equity
Both are downlevels from your MS role. Never accept a downlevel.
Doordash is grossly overvalued. Their $250k equity can drop down to $50k. Go Amazon.
One of SoftBank's baby?
How's that 250k equity looking now for DD?
Amazon is flat u won’t get SDE3 with 5 years of experience unless you are really exceptional. 250k in stock means you are getting $260k a year in your third/fourth year even without any raise or stock appreciation. You are looking at $300k in third and fourth year as SDE2. This is a competitive offer especially in Seattle.
If you decide to take Amazon - Tell them you're making more at MS due to a recent promotion and you are interested in Amazon but can't take a pay cut. Say you're looking for 240k TC min. I mean currently your breakdown puts you at 222.5k TC (160 base + 50 bonus + 12.5 stock). Max is right under 242 so 240 is doable. It's a small raise with the downlevel so just depends if you care more about title or TC. You could use the TC increase to go back to MS (another team) and make even more in a year or so.
Thank you for the detailed reply!
Your target comps over 4 years not calculating any growth. Yr 1 - 222.5 Yr 2 - 247.5 Yr 3 - 260 Yr 4 - 260 I'd probably see if you can get a higher bonus year 1 to balance growth so maybe 70k yr 1 and 50k yr 2. The other comment about ~300k with growth is accurate but its only a projected growth and how much trust you want to put in the market.
Did you consider extra benefits in compensation that you receive in Microsoft? ESPP, 401K, medical etc . This seems to me down grade so keep looking or switch team internally.
$225K is good considering you will have a good WLB and Microsoft is doing so well. What’s your TC breakdown like?
In last one year I made 195 k as salary + bonus and 30 k as stocks. My salary got bumped up from 138k to 166k when I moved from 62 to 63, 6 months ago. When I joined MSFT I got no stocks, I got good refresher of 50k in one of the SSAs last year.
Happy to talk to you about DoorDash company culture, working here etc. Feel free to PM me!
What has the negotiation process been like for Amazon and DoorDash?
Keep interviewing unless you are desperate to leave. Both seem down grade.