hey- so an old buddy of mine who is a systems opps approached me bc i grew my current startup 6x last year. he said that we would make a great team blah blah and do i have any ideas for tech that we can build to sell since he wants that sh*t in his protfolio. i mentioned some specifics of one nugget i have but a few years back someone stole another “useless” idea of mine and went of frikking shark tank. I digress. i told him some things but then when he wanted more over text i said we should sign something and he got pissed. did i proceed badly here? im a woman btw, which makes ppl fuck w me more. basically he sai” well if youre not going to share an idea in its infancy then where is the trust and than shat all over “ideas” being useless withoit “execution” as if bullding an app in 2020 was nanosurgery lol this is a dear friend who historicalky is good at biz dev but has dumb ideas. i work in branding and know my shit. next steps? and was i wrong here.
You already got burned sharing ideas and having them stolen, so you’re not wrong. You should be able to get a potential partner to sign an NDA. Shrug off the reaction, tell him this is your expectation to move forward and let him decide if he wants to work with you.
Close friend of mine made me sign an NDA before disclosing his idea, I thought that’s only fair. Nothing wrong here
He's not entirely wrong, ideas are cheap. Everyone has them and they're useless without execution. That said, execution is useless without proper marketing and management. Considering you were burned before, I don't think it is unreasonable of you to ask that potential partners sign something. If he won't do that, move on. Hire a developer if you really believe in the idea.
OP, your friend sounds insecure slightly. Given his background, hold your cards close. Wait to reveal. Make him sign the NDA although there’s loopholes. Just keep building your product. He will find out eventually. Don’t let people talk to you like that this early on. If he’s doing that now, just imagine working with him.. might damage the friendship completely
I agree. Thank you all. Apologies, I was just venting and am off the clock so my biz speak turns into begrudged gnome garble. Frankly, I think having partners is a nightmare. Thank you for your input.
I build apps for a living. And I have done so for several years. I’ve often given free advice to friends and colleagues on the subject and several of them who come to me for advice also say “hey id love your thoughts, but would you mind signing an NDA?” My answer is always no problem and I’m not even a business partner, just a friend. This guy sounds like garbage. In this day and age an NDA is simple to draft and more people should use them. Kick him to the curb.
Thank you. I feel like that’s my sentiment exactly. By the way- if I were to do this myself I would think to just PM it myself with tatvasoft and give them 10k and then move forward. Sorry I’m just sick of people undervaluing my contributions - thank you for your input honestly!
Someone once wanted my help several years ago to vet out how technically possible an idea was but wouldn’t tell me anything about it without an NDA. I said no thanks for similar reasons. To the best of my knowledge it’s still just an idea in his head... Decide what your idea is worth, If anything, and what you would do with it on your own
I have started 2 biz already both of which are profitable- that’s why he wants in. I think if I do decide to undertake it I wouldn’t have that hard of a time honestly. I guess I was just seduced by the promise of us working together bc we are friends and often gripe about work and I felt that he asked me because he respected me. Sadly that’s hard to come by as a 5’2 blonde girl who looks like she’s 12 even after taking one if my companies to heights no one imagined. Fuck him - thank you all for your candor. I see both sides, but I’ll just see if this is something I might want to do or not.
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