CompensationJun 10, 2018
Applebeot72

ask for L4 instead of L5

i got 160 / 320/4 / 30 offer at google. ict 4 at apple with 6yoe is it worth asking for L4? will that be easier to get promo after 2-3 years?

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Uber Lalu Jun 10, 2018

Why not ask for L5 ?

Apple beot72 OP Jun 10, 2018

what are the benefits asking for L5? is this better refresher?

Google yue Jun 10, 2018

At higher end of L4. Promo to L5 depends more on the team you will be joining.

Google AlphaOne Jun 10, 2018

With L5, you will be getting larger bonuses, stock refresh, and yearly raises. With L4, it doesn't matter if you're coming in at the top end. The promo committee only looks at your perf reviews and contributions in deciding if you should move up a level.

Apple beot72 OP Jun 10, 2018

sounds like i should be asking for L5...

Microsoft __t_r_p___ Jun 10, 2018

For same pay, prefer higher level. For same level, prefer higher pay. Lower level makes sense only if pay is significantly higher. 2-3 year timeframe is not short. This will delay L5 to L6 by 2-3 years too. This is basic integral. In long term, you will lose money if you start at lower band.

Two Sigma foobat Jun 10, 2018

Is their offer for L5?

Apple beot72 OP Jun 10, 2018

yes it is

VMware andor Jun 10, 2018

Do you have competing offers ? This offer looks smaller than usual.

Apple cho Chang Jun 11, 2018

+1

Google Altern May 20, 2019

Why are you even considering asking for L4 when the offer is L5?

Google printasap May 21, 2019

The comp looks more like L4 than L5. Are you sure about the level?