How hard is it to find good WLB team at FB newgrad?

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Oct 14, 2021 20 Comments

Title basically. How honest are managers about this stuff? FB advertises itself as "fastpaced" which in my mind translates to 50+hr workweek average.

How can I find a chill team where I can do 40/hr normal work?

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  • Facebook
    beam tlind

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    beam tlind
    As a new grad coming out of bootcamp it's been challenging and I'm not really sure I've managed to do it. I have a team that I like, and the wlb seems good, but the bootcamp experience is so different from the day to day that you really have no way of truly knowing ahead of time. Some things have helped me vet for red flags, though:

    1) Straight up ask the manager about wlb. Most likely they'll tell you it's good; disregard this. Very occasionally, though, they'll tell you that the team members tend to prioritize career growth and delivering big impact at the expense of some wlb. You can thank them for their honesty then close the reachout in this case.

    2) Check team insights diff heat map. Check for lots of code flying in at all hours of the day, and massive amounts of code committed. Again, this can't tell you if wlb is good, but it can tell you if it's bad. Similarly, check their recent diffs.

    3) Ask about sevs and on-call. Check all of their recent sevs. Attend sev review. Is shit catching on fire eight days a week?

    4) Set up some 1:1s with "average" team members. Not managers, tech leads, or new hires/recent transfers. These people have the least incentive to obfuscate negative information. I've found generally they're much more candid than managers. These are the people you can trust the most if a few of them say the wlb is good.

    5) avoid most product teams. Favor occasional stressful on-call over ever-present stress to deliver impact in product spaces.

    You'll likely get a lot of reachouts (30+). Imo the key is to use the publicly available metrics (team insights, recent sevs, etc) to quickly rule out most of them so you can spend more time with teams that are more promising. Good luck!
    Oct 14, 2021 1
  • Scality
    hDp8rv

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    hDp8rv
    why are you so obsessed with WLB as a new grad?
    Oct 14, 2021 2
    • Hologic
      feelinlow

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      feelinlow
      Yeah. Because new grads don’t have anything outside of their work life. 🀒
      Oct 14, 2021
    • Amazon
      bExq62

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      bExq62
      OP
      so, its kinda funny actually lol, there are these weird things i have called friends, family and relationships lol? yeah they suck up a decent amount of time and provide some good dopamine in return. i might have an addiction problem:(
      Oct 14, 2021
  • Facebook
    TasmanianD

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    TasmanianD
    Good wlb definitely exists at FB but it depends on you. My team has good wlb potential but there are new grads who are highly productive so if you want a promo then you will need to deliver impact on par with them or wait for them to promo before more typical performance can be promoted.
    If you're not in a rush to promote then our team let's you cost your own work and as long as you deliver according to agreed on costs, no one expects you to deliver much more than that.
    Oct 14, 2021 9
  • Hologic
    feelinlow

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    feelinlow
    You can’t. All new grads try to prove themselves by working their ass off. Rat race
    Oct 14, 2021 0
  • Amazon
    work 🐢

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    work 🐢
    Wrong company. Better luck for this at Amazon outside of AWS.
    Oct 14, 2021 2