Should I sh*t on an self centered SDE in my team to leadership before leaving Amazon?

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Jun 24, 2021 19 Comments

When i'm being asked for help, I always do.
This SDE prefers to do all kinds of unecessariy things for delivering results, which we can do perfectly fine without, instead of pitching in and helping team mates.

Others in the team are not as seasoned me and are afraid to raise their voice.
If my director asks - i'm thinking to say that I had great time and I will be happy to work with everyone except for one person again. He may ask who, and if so - shall i tell him about this SDE and how she is self centered and not pitching enough to help?

For the intermediate period, beofre I leave, everytime I'm going to need help from that individual (Usuaully I don't), i'm going to mention that on standup.
And then let's see after the SDM hears U need specific help from her, if she avoids helping.

For back stabbing , self-centered SDEs - this is a lesson - you know that teams are important in FAANG (true to other companies as well), you may be in a shi*ty org, and terrible manager and then the fact you work for FAANG will not mean to you as your will be miserable, or may try to use your professional network of connections and get "inside intel" on teams.

If you'll be a back stabbing self-centered individual, the chances your colleages (and past colleagues) will help you to advance your career (perhaps outside of Amazon) will be lower comparing to someone who is trying to help others (and this is from past experience).

#SDE #Amazon #L5

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  • New
    griddle

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    I'm a dynamic programmer!
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    Please stay at Amazon.
    Jun 24, 2021 0
  • You’re made for Amazon.
    Jun 24, 2021 0
  • "If you'll be a back stabbing self-centered individual, the chances your colleages (and past colleagues) will help you to advance your career (perhaps outside of Amazon) will be lower comparing to someone who is trying to help others (and this is from past experience)."

    So you're gonna stab this guy in the back on your way out?
    Jun 24, 2021 2
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      Never back stabbed anyone, this guy is deffinately screwing others, including people I care about at Amazon.
      Jun 24, 2021
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      + there are quite a few past engineers at Amazon that I know that will be happy to work with me, some of them actually tried referring me to other companies (tried = signed somewhere else)
      Jun 24, 2021
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    desk_horse

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    The problem is, these people who behave this way believe their shit doesn't stink. So they don't have the capabilities to reflect on their behavior even if they were to be told of it. That is why people always say to act professional; they know nothing will be done even if they were candid in their exit interviews.
    Jun 24, 2021 2
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      mush0n

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      Maybe I'm too naive. I once got feedback that i need to be more articulate when I present design docs, and i took the feedback.
      When I was a team lead, a senior engineer once told me that he found some words I said to be offensive, obviously I did not mean to offend him, and I apologized, and the reflected on what happened and actually reached out to him and asked for his advice how i could say this thing in a different way.

      Why not accepting feedback as
      Jun 24, 2021
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      desk_horse

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      Some people just can't accept and process feedback, whether because they are incapable, like medically, or because they simply do not want to.

      Or they could even be aware of their behavior and are simply getting their rocks off watching the results.
      Jun 24, 2021
  • If you are leaving you are shitting on yourself by complaining about other engineers. It’s easy to see if you imagine another engineer in your place who’s resigning and suddenly complaining about others to management.
    Jun 24, 2021 1
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      mush0n

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      Why do you think it's shitting on mself. and it's a single engineer.
      I'm not judging your comment. I actually want to learn and will be more than happy to understand why you think so.

      I'm obviously also ranting out. I will try hard to finish in good terms.
      Jun 24, 2021