So how did Riot Games' walkout end?

May 28, 2019 155 Comments

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    • New / Eng
      pFaT50

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      pFaT50
      That's fine. I'm for equality, not for me being told I'm bad because I'm male and white and I play games for fun.
      May 29, 2019
    • GrubHub
      Lbth84

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      Lbth84
      You know, all games don’t have to be for you. If they reduce the 95% of games that are for/by/starring white males down to 80% there will still be too many games for a single person to play. And the companies will make money from a 15% larger pool of customers.

      I assume you haven’t checked lately, but the US is only 77% white, and only about 55% of babies born were white (as of 2010 census). I imagine those numbers will be even lower in 2020. Game companies have to do more to welcome minorities, sometimes at the expense of white males or they will lose more and more future customers. It’s not racism it’s pragmatism.
      May 29, 2019
  • Sephora
    gQKXeF

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    gQKXeF
    League's community is toxic for a reason...hopefully it's something they learn to address
    May 29, 2019 3
    • Yes just like amazon... toxic culture but no sexual harassment
      May 29, 2019
    • Eh, it's toxic because the inherent psychology of the game makes it really easy for players to feel that their games are lost due to teammates (and this is _sometimes_ true which reinforces the behavior and has ripple effects reinforcing the behavior of others). Just like Blind makes for toxicity due to the anonymity; there's no shortage of sexism on here.

      And they've honestly implemented a lot of tools to reduce toxicity as much as possible. Immature people gonna game and immature.

      On some level I sympathize with them because emotional immaturity and seeking comfort through online gaming often goes hand-in-hand with depression. Not always mind you, but there's definitely a good chunk of depression and somewhat related anger problems inherent in online gaming. And of course that gives them no right to yell at teammates.
      May 29, 2019
  • They created a D&I Council....forced arbitration hasn't really changed
    May 29, 2019 15
    • Intel
      pFVD84

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      pFVD84
      Any social experiment that is said to be “inherently good” is almost certainly not good.

      I presume you are saying diversity of thought or experience is good since the melanin content of skin is an irrelevant DNA component in decision making.

      Is diversity in a hierarchical organization (like the military, firefighter, etc) good? Probably not - leads to indecision in critical moments. It’s only when creativity is required that diversity is typically value-add.
      Jun 4, 2019
    • Google
      Mr. Glass

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      Mr. Glass
      ^ true. But the radical leftist folks are unfortunately blind to this. There’s an emotional dogmatic component that is irrational and needs a different kind of argument for them to “feel” that it’s wrong.
      Jun 5, 2019
  • For the last few years I’ve been on the frontlines or the recruiting effort. A few thoughts.

    1. Having too many of a single group such as white males who play the same game, creates an echo chamber. Progress is made when ideas are challenged creatively.
    2. The recruiters are dropping the ball. If they’re only bringing us people with gaming experience, then we only get people from the same background. We need to find great engineers that might have never considered gaming as an option.
    3. Once someone joins our industry they need to feel welcomed. They need to feel safe that they can speak out with their POV and not marginalized. It’s so important that if someone’s ideas are not used, it’s because of the idea, not who they are.
    4. No one gets a free pass. This industry is filled with both men and women who are doing their dream job. We don’t need dreamers. We need people who put in the work and earn their spot.
    5. We have a long way to go. But this world isn’t filled with heroes and villains. A white dude isn’t the enemy. Also, I’m white, I’m a dude. So everyone else on this thread complaining that you feel threatened. STFU. We all have it pretty good. If you feel a woman got a promotion you deserved, then work twice as hard. Find new roads, they’re always out there for people like us. We’re not going to be hurt by giving a hand up to the disenfranchised.
    6. STEM education for young women is a major factor. We need more women in tech, we need young girls engaged early on and staying engaged. To enable that they need to feel welcome.
    7. Great games are made when people are challenged. The more diverse voices at the table, the better the product is.
    8. It’s easy to be the victim. Stand up for yourself, listen, be polite and work hard.
    9. Toxic can be an odd term. I’ve worked in a office where my boss slammed doors and threw chairs. He was an asshole. If anyone is complaining about perceived slights or micro-aggressions. Grow the fuck up. If someone is sexually harassing you, go to HR. Or just publicly shame them. But if they just hurt your feeling because they’re an asshole. The acknowledge they’re an asshole. Move on and focus on how you can do a kickass job. Simply put, don’t play the victim.

    We’re all lucky to work in this industry.
    May 29, 2019 47
  • IBM
    thinkbee

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    thinkbee
    This never really does work out well when they behave like children and use the current accusations to push other issues.
    Also Kotaku isn't an unbiased source, especially when it involves industry members with similar politics.
    May 29, 2019 3
    • Unity / Data
      Mr. Bate

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      Mr. Bate
      Apparently, walking out and pressuring employers to change is childish.

      Remember all those children who walked out in the 20s, 30s, 50s, 60s, and 70s? They literally gave their blood and life so you can have a fairer, safer work place by walking out. Every concession made by business owners in the last century, from which everyone of us benefited, has been thanks to the blood and tears of organised men and women workers.

      Everyday I go home at 5 pm, safe and sound to see my wife and kids, I remember the sacrifices these people made, despite every generation telling them versions of your comment.
      May 30, 2019
    • New / Eng
      TechLeed

      New Eng

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      TechLeed
      See when people walked out in the past they didn't do it because of the stories on the internet. They talked with each other and came up with plans and actual improvements.

      All these modern walkouts are just people who want to jump on the popularity train because I'm sure these people, while trying to do a good thing, are also very toxic. They DO work at riot...
      May 30, 2019