What exactly do PMs do?

Walmart / Data
A1Monk

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A1Monk
Mar 3, 2021 11 Comments

All that I see is they attend meetings and chase engineers and data scientists to implements and make presentations. They are all MBAs but do not have the attitude of an MBA. Iโ€™m yet to see a PM make a half decent contribution to a product.... and yet in companies like Walmart, they โ€œownโ€ the product and show up suddenly to lift trophies and take credit and send boring congratulatory emails!!

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  • PwC
    abdhdkxm

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    abdhdkxm
    They probably don't do stuff like this ๐Ÿ™‚ To just code away is one thing but to think of the bigger picture and piece a puzzle together is what a PM does. People who just code and one particular task will not appreciate the role of big picture thinkers. Btw I am an engineer as well but feel the big picture thinking and puzzle solving is were the true value add is. Anyone can code!
    Mar 3, 2021 3
  • Walmart
    chuckee

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    chuckee
    And you spoke like a typical engineer! ๐Ÿ˜„
    Mar 3, 2021 0
  • Snap
    snap

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    snap
    Think of engineers as sheep and PM as sheep hearder
    Mar 3, 2021 0
  • Resy
    KlCY04

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    KlCY04
    10 years in the tech industry and I hardly know 1-2 product managers who are good. Most of them have superficial confidence and knowledge and it's laughable to talk to them in the meetings.
    Mar 4, 2021 1
  • Walmart / Data
    A1Monk

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    A1Monk
    OP
    Any examples of companies where architects and senior technology / data science folks own and build the โ€˜productsโ€™? Ie., both the sheep and the sheep headers are technology people and not recent MBAs with little to no experience of actually building?
    Mar 4, 2021 1
    • Zenoti / Other
      EMDj25

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      EMDj25
      A lot of PMs start as data sci etc. I think you are conflating MBA with PM, though admittedly there is a lot of overlap
      Mar 4, 2021