Amazon Sr TPM vs Apple Sr EPM

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Hdhdhddu

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Hdhdhddu
Mar 23 18 Comments

Amazon is L6 in Prime Video and Apple is ICT4 in Maps. Amazon is ok with remote. Location: Seattle.

I am interested in hearing opinions on work, wlb, growth opportunities etc.

How is the PIP culture in TPM org at Amazon? How is the Maps org? How technical is the EPM position compared to TPM?
TPM: Technical Program Manager
EPM: Engineering Project Manager

10 YOE (dev+tpm)

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  • Amazon
    nuzd03

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    nuzd03
    Have been at both. Apple you will get refreshers for performance vs. penalized if you are maximizing your band, so not even a cookie tossed your way if you have stellar performance at Amazon. In a couple years TC will probably be more at Apple. Onboarding is also pretty solid whereas Amazon is self-service/Lord of the Flies. Otherwise… it depends on what makes you happy.
    Mar 23 6
    • Apple
      3njoyl1f3

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      3njoyl1f3
      I have been an IC EPM though not in maps. It is a technical role and I expect my team to know the systems, participate in system designs and overall architecture discussions. You will not be able to write code though. But you can get as technical as you want and no one is going to stop you. In fact engineers and EMs will respect you for your technical knowledge and insight.
      Mar 23
    • Indeed
      Hdhdhddu

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      Hdhdhddu
      OP
      Good to know, thanks!
      Mar 23
  • Apple
    oaky

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    oaky
    Not sure what TPMs do at Amazon but at apple they don’t do anything close to technical. Scheduling meetings, taking notes, poking devs about the schedule etc. Will be a career ending move ….

    DM me if you need more info but I have been around a long time and yet to see any epm doing anything technical
    Mar 23 3
    • Apple
      3njoyl1f3

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      3njoyl1f3
      Sorry, I don’t agree with this. You may have worked with non technical ones. But I have definitely seen EPMs who do much more than you outline above.
      Mar 23
    • Amazon
      BigDeal007

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      BigDeal007
      I have been at Amazon for ~4Yrs and I’ve worked on the AWS side and Amazon Devices side. TPMs on AWS side are deeply technical and do need to be to do well in that environment. Amazon Devices side is different. They are much less technical from what I’ve seen.
      Mar 24
  • Amazon / Product
    fanny

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    fanny
    L6 TPM 375K?
    Mar 23 2
  • Amazon
    Bello674

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    Bello674
    Are you asking Blind how is PIP in Amazon…. it’s the same for TPM as anyone under L8.

    Amazon / AWS is Earths most productive PIP factory.
    Mar 23 0
  • Amazon
    Dagger2

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    Dagger2
    Amazon. Whats the break down of both the offer
    Mar 23 2