Fb/google/amazon offer comparison

Nov 12, 2021 66 Comments

Hello all, need advise to decide which one to take

Amazon L5:
151k base
210k signon year 1
120k signon year 2
101 share 5/15/40/40 (15% stock increase per year otherwise hr said they will pay the difference while I didn’t see it in the offer)

4 year total around 1.4M
Break down 4 year 380k/340k/360k/360k

Pros: money. May learn a lot because work a lot
Cons: not good wlb, no refresher

Fb E4:
169k base
70k signon
365k rsu
10% bonus

4 year total is 1.179M without refresher
Counting 80k refresher per year around 1.3M

Break down 4 year without refresher
347k/277k/277k/277k
With 80k refresher 347k/297k/317k/337k

Pros: growth, boot camp may get the team fit better, free food, may get more money if perform (similar to amazon), stock price now kind of under valued have more room to grow.

Cons: wlb may not be good. Perm issue. Peer pressure.

Google L4:
165k base
50k signon
365k rsu (33/33/22/12)
15% bonus

4 year total without refresher 1.174M
Counting 80k refresher per year (may not be that much and highly likely gonna miss the first year refresher since cannot join before 12/30) around 1.3M as well.

4 years break down 360k/310k/270k/233k
With 80k refresher maybe 360k/330k/ 310k/293k

Pros: wlb, it’s google, free food, may get Kirkland office which is close to home.

Cons: maybe slow to get promoted.

Generally
TC
Amazon > fb> google
Wlb
Google>fb>amazon
Growth:
Difficult to evaluate. Depend on teams

The thing I care:
Money, growth, reasonable wlb. Can work up to 50 hrs per week but don’t want to go beyond that. GC, currently still H1B, don’t want to get laid off since there is timeline to find another job which is stressful.

Please help me to decide. Thank you.

Yoe: 3.5
Current TC peanut

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TOP 66 Comments
  • Had similar offers, went with G

    Also your Amazon TC comparison is flawed, I am pretty sure G/F stocks will also rise by 15% annually. In that scenario you get nothing extra from Amazon while you get the refreshers at G/FB. Eventually you are bound to make more money at G/F.
    So the fair comparison would be to not consider the 15% extra annually at Amazon since you are bound to get that everywhere due to stock growth

    Amazon - 1.28M over 4 years
    G/FB - 1.3 M over 4 years with refreshers.

    Technically the offers are the same, don’t be fooled by amazons f’ed up comp policy
    Nov 13, 2021 1
  • That AMZN offer is nuts. Is it SDE2?

    If you care about growth, I suggest FB. You can move from E4->E5 more quickly than at G or AMZN. That means higher base and larger refreshers = higher TC.

    Btw, try to negotiate that FB offer to 400k stock and 100k signing.
    Nov 12, 2021 2
  • Nice to see that Amazon offer. This is Seattle, right?
    Nov 12, 2021 2
    • OP
      Right
      Nov 12, 2021
    • I worked in Amazon and had a good team. Had very good WLB. Picked a bad team as FB. I don’t like FB at all. Shit WLB, lack of direction and support.

      Since you’ve cleared these interviews you need to be confident that you can clear it in the future. Amazon would be a good choice even with the backloaded vesting schedule.
      Nov 12, 2021
  • Go search for Amazon’s total compensation philosophy. TLDR - they look at what you are vesting and decide if you are out of band or not, and adjust down if needed. So you can generally expect peanuts for refreshers from them. Fb and goog don’t do this so your comp in later years will be much higher.
    Nov 13, 2021 2
  • Amazon
    shai-halud

    Go to company page Amazon

    shai-halud
    Congrats on those offers, especially the Amazon one. As an L6 SDE at Amazon, I can tell you that's significantly more than what most tenured L6 SDE's make. Not surprisingly, this is also why attrition is about to go through the roof.
    Nov 13, 2021 1