FB NY vs Google NY vs Uber NY vs Bytedance (MTV)

Dec 17, 2021 26 Comments

Hey guys

First post on blind. I have SWE2 offers from FB, Google, Uber in NYC. Wondering which one will be best for me.

I'm optimizing for the following in this order:
1. reasonable WLB (<40 hrs/week) + Growth + Interesting Work
2. Social life
3. Compensation

The offers are:

Google (L4)
Base: 180K
15% annual bonus
Equity: 240K (33, 33, 22, 12)
Sign-on: 30K
Y1: 289.2 (base + equity + sign-on)

Facebook (E4)
Base: 170K
10% annual
Equity: 350K (25,25,25,25)
Sign-on: 50K
Y1: 307.5

Uber (SWE2)
Base: 156K
23K-46k (annual)
Equity: 350K (35,30,20,15)
Sign-on: 30K
Y1: 308.5

Bytedance (Negotiated for higher base)
Base: ~225K
25% annual
RSU: ~200K (15, 25, 25, 35)
Sign-On: 50K
Y1: 305

TC: meh
YOE: < 3

Update:
1. Also, if y'all can offer any tips to negotiate up, that'd be great!
2. Can anyone from google tell me if I can negotiate more (even though they said it's final)?

Update 2:
I don't care much for the poll. Would love to hear your reasoning for the choice instead!

#swe #software #engineering #tiktok #google #meta #facebook #bytedance #uber #nyc

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  • Google
    tnkw43

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    tnkw43
    Given the choices I would say FB NYC. It's a core engineering center for FB, tons of teams/projects. Plus it's NYC.

    I would not join Google again. It's super slow and everything is very political.

    ByteDance has questionable culture.

    Uber is having a massive attrition and the morale is super low. Not going to change any time soon.
    Dec 17, 2021 14
    • Meta
      mdiO73

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      mdiO73
      Remote. E6.
      Dec 17, 2021
    • Uber
      nnnnuuuu

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      nnnnuuuu
      @op If you are willing to take some risk, we have the biggest growth potential. WLB can be good. I would say trust your impression during the interview. It is usually very important. In my personal opinion, choose the place you will be most happy about.
      Don’t buy too much from the ex-Uber guy, they left during the beginning of the pandemic when we are at our worst time. Things have become much better now and we have a lot of new growth point. As I said, if you really want growth potential, you shouldn’t join a place which is already very high.
      Dec 18, 2021
  • Google
    MetaPls

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    MetaPls
    Congrats on all these offers. How did you prepare for system design? I would suggest FB since it’s my dream company because of rapid promotions and growth, which is very rare at Google. I would consider Uber to be like FB in terms of growth but with a more unpredictable future outlook due to the domain it is in, so wouldn’t consider it at all if you have an offer from the actual FB.
    Dec 17, 2021 3
    • OP
      I’m leaning towards google for now so looking for any reasons to disqualify it. Could you tell me why you think growth at google is slow? Is it true across all teams?
      Dec 17, 2021
    • Google
      MetaPls

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      MetaPls
      Well obviously it’s not true across all teams since each team is different in terms of the projects it handles and the manager’s supportiveness, but on average everything moves a lot slower at Google than it would at FB. Promotions require “sustained”performance at the next level which means it’ll take you a long while to get to L6, whereas at FB I wouldn’t be surprised if you were E6 within 3 years from when you start. Refreshers are also better at FB for high performers due to larger multipliers.

      I’m kinda surprised you’re still considering Google. 240k is a pittance of a grant for L4. Go to FB where you’re getting paid well, will get paid better over time, and will generally level up a lot faster. It’s a no brainer for me. Also you can negotiate that FB grant to 400k and signing bonus to 100k, if you haven’t tried to already.
      Dec 17, 2021
  • Meta
    mdiO73

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    mdiO73
    Uber seems low. Ask for 400k
    Dec 17, 2021 0
  • Twitter
    flameóq

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    flameóq
    Growth and good WLB don't normally go together.

    I'd say go to fb but try and get a 100k sign on if they still do that
    Dec 17, 2021 2
    • OP
      Yeah, I acknowledge that. I’m not looking for rest and vest, but (50h/week or more) is not sustainable for me so I don’t want to be in a place where that’s expected
      Dec 17, 2021
    • Twitter
      flameóq

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      flameóq
      In that case go to Google or stay at MS.

      I think the other companies have a high bar and a new job is always some amount of work.

      At FB you'd need to get to 5 which isn't hard but you'll need to put in some hours. 50 or less
      Dec 17, 2021
  • Uber
    nnnnuuuu

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    nnnnuuuu
    Your preference seems pointing to Google, and it will also depend on the projects you will work on.
    Dec 17, 2021 0