Vote with your feet (Microsoft -> Google)

Microsoft / Eng
boldilocks

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boldilocks
Mar 14, 2020 22 Comments

This is kind of a rant but also hopefully helpful for people reading this.

Currently working at Microsoft L61 for 1.5 years (Redmond)

Joined 1.5 yr ago with
$130000
$50k RSU
$40k sign on bonus
$13500 relocation (after tax amount so ~$18000 pre tax)

After 1 year (perf review)
$135400 (around 4% merit increase)
11% bonus
$7800 refresher

I was quite disappointed with the refresher but the merit increase and bonus was good.

Unfortunately the TC was still lower than I had hoped for SDE II, and my new manager sucks. Management is micromanaging and is extremely biased in who they’re promoting.

So I’m voting with my feet and going to Google.

Total YOE 4.5 graduated with Bachelors

Got and accepted an offer for L4 in Chrome OS (Bellevue)
$144k
15% bonus (minimum)
$204k RSU
$20k sign on

Dont really have competing offer since the only “competing offer” I got was from Amazon for SDE I with verbal TC of $180k, which is lowball.

Looking on Blind, this L4 offer seems low but I’m happy with it since the refresher will crush Microsoft’s mediocre target $6500 (vesting over 5 years) and google is about $60k-$80k (vesting over 4 years)

Hopefully Microsoft will get their shit together.

Peace Microsoft✌️
#votewithyourfeet

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  • Microsoft / Eng
    swishyc

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    swishyc
    I just rejected a Google offer at L4 for MSFT at 64. Google not only levelled me down, their offer was a joke as well... I negotiated every penny to match up to the initial MSFT offer, and then out of nowhere MSFT made me an offer I just couldn’t refuse.
    Mar 14, 2020 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      boldilocks

      Go to company page Microsoft Eng

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      boldilocks
      OP
      😔😔 ya sorry to hear that. But one thing that definitely pushed me toward Google is the refreshers

      https://us.teamblind.com/s/MUGvP0wk

      I can validate the accuracy of that post cuz I’m in MS now.

      It looks like L64 is target $24k refresher vesting over 5 years.

      But google l4 is about $70k over 4 years. And l5 is about $100k-$120k (over 4 years)

      For me, In the long run Google comp actually destroys MS comp.

      Idk about your comp but that’s definitely something to consider.
      Mar 14, 2020
    • Google
      WuhanVirux

      Go to company page Google

      WuhanVirux
      for L5 it’s 105k. It’s much easier to get rating with > 1.0 multiplier at Google. So think about 84k vs 24k lol
      Mar 14, 2020
  • Boeing / R&D
    FloridaSME

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    Knights of Columbus, Rocket Fuel
    FloridaSME
    Hey that's really great, I'm currently at Microsoft with the exact comp as you but 3x the RSU and 2 YOE @ L61, looking to make the jump in a couple years to Google LA when their office opens up there in 2022. Good luck in your new role!
    Mar 14, 2020 1
    • Microsoft / Eng
      boldilocks

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      boldilocks
      OP
      Thanks! Wow! How did you get so much RSU in 2 years in MS? We’re you a new grad? I heard L61 max RSU offer is $80k.

      Or is it because of the stock price increase?
      Mar 14, 2020
  • Facebook / Eng
    gind

    Go to company page Facebook Eng

    gind
    Congrats.! Try to get a competiting offer asap if possible. You can easily target 150/350/40 for L4 in Seattle.
    Mar 14, 2020 3
  • Congratulations!
    Mar 14, 2020 0
  • Google
    WuhanVirux

    Go to company page Google

    WuhanVirux
    Congrats. I heard many 62-63 were downleveled to L3. But even L3 TC beat theirs a lot. You can make more than L65 as L4!
    What a joke!
    Mar 14, 2020 1