I'm affected by the PERM processing delays for Facebook, and it's putting all personal plans at risk. Not to mention potentially forcing me to change jobs, in the middle of longer term projects that I've worked on for over a year. This is highly unsettling.
I want to understand the situation a bit more. Most of the teams I've worked on have been, by an overwhelming majority, comprised of immigrants. My first question is -- what effect does this have on Facebook? Eventually people will start leaving, and new hires will refuse to join (I hope new hires are already cautious with their offers). Does this not provide a large enough monetary incentive for the company to attempt and solve this problem by settling?
On the other side, it's really hard for me to believe that the lawsuit itself didn't have ill intent on the other end of some misplaced political favor. What motivates the DOJ to refuse to accept Facebook PERMs even though most employment based immigrants follow a similar procedure? Rather than address the procedure, it seems they are choosing to just pick on Facebook. Unlike previous lawsuits against Facebook, I can't imagine any subset of the American population appeased by this situation. Such hostile situations are created for immigrant workers precisely because of this nonsense from the responsible government bodies, not because Facebook manipulates the system to boost their retention. So what are the incentives here?
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Shit.
Check investment banks' PERMS in my NY area.. just from the ad I can make out that this it is for PERM... and I don't bother to apply... Citibank, wells Fargo are the recent ones I have seen with PERM type wordings... It makes it easy to reject the resumes. And nobody can counter it based on wordings in the ads
I have more than 2 years left on my H1B.
If my understanding is correct, FB will file for my perm and the application will be stuck indefinitely.
Then in 2 years I will need to get another H1B, and if I don't get picked in the lottery this will then end my US career?
I don't mind getting my perm later, I am worried that I will lose everything.
Is this scenario likely or am I overthinking it?
I am on my first H1B, with more than 2 years still left on it. Prior to H1B I was on another visa type. ROW.
What happens if the situation with perm isn't resolved soon-ish?
Let's say I join, apply for perm and it gets stuck for years. Will I at least be able to get to the stage where I can transfer my perm application to another employer in a couple of years, or will this be a totally lost time, or can it be even worse?
So, until there’s verdict in trial DOL won’t accept any FB PERM to support FB’s defense. Because, if they do they will be proving FB’s point.
Facebook might be banned for applying perms in future.
It's quite clear why the FB had been chosen as an example. If it's been some Indian body shop then everyone would think that they are fine, being a rich American company with former government officials sitting on the board and being employed on sinecures, and its own lobbyists etc. When it's the FB that gets a book thrown at it then even Google or Amazon will think twice before trying to pull off the same tricks and smaller shops will be scared straight.
The positions posted on the newspapers are for PERM. Which sufficed DOL requirements.
I am not a lawyer but from what I read in the regulations, the DOL requirements are not exhaustive, they are just setting the lowest bar.
If you already hire for other jobs with online advertisement and applications then having paper-only PERM is going to be a violation. That requirement is for somebody who normally hires only by reference and accepts apps only face-to-face, for example.