Tech IndustryJan 17, 2020
Zillow Groupmelnorme

from Zillow to OCI?

I got an offer from OCI for IC4 7 YoE Location: Redwood, CA TC: 250k Base: 180K Sign-on: 20K Stock: ~= 70K / year Current TC at Zillow is 230K That's not that big of a jump, my main reason for considering OCI is a learning opportunity, I did not work on clouds before at all. Zillow is a great company, they really care about their people and I love working there. Except that technologically the challenge there is rather the complexity of the business process than the scale of operations. There are not that many home purchases happening daily, you know. My main concern is stability of the group, getting laid off or PIPed is the last thing I want for family and visa reasons. Also, would experience of building OCI using internal Oracle tools and services translate well into the outside industry practices? I am both afraid and excited. I would be very thankful for insights from OCI guys or people who faced similar questions. UPDATE: I decided to stay at Zillow. Reasons being uncertain future of OCI, news about layoffs at Oracle (and particularly in the grop which invited me, IDCS), and me prioritizing my visa status safety. Zillow as a company is earning money and is doing well financially at the moment. It can not be said about Oracle which hides its cloud "successes" by combining them with licence revenues and is buying back its shares to keep their price from falling. "It's never safe to join an unsuccessful product", "Stay away if you are on work visa" © TeamBlind collective wisdom. PS. I sent a farewell email message to the people at Oracle and got a bounce notification from mailbox of my would-be direct manager. He became "Unknown recipient address" whilst I was thinking. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Oracle dragonflyy Jan 17, 2020

Congratulations on the offer. Which team in OCI?

Zillow Group melnorme OP Jan 17, 2020

Identity Management

Oracle dragonflyy Jan 17, 2020

IDCS or IAM?

Intel Hope:) Jan 17, 2020

Negotiate. You deserve at least 300k

Microsoft 👋 was 🥰 Jan 18, 2020

Negotiate I think he/she deserves 1 million

Intel Hope:) Jan 18, 2020

Why are you salty Microsoft? I got more than him/her as IC3 at Oracle. As a IC4 he/she can easily get 300k.

Microsoft ballmers Jan 18, 2020

Such a small bump

Amazon cofkemfn Jan 18, 2020

that’s 270 TC 1st year. not that small of a bump

Microsoft 👋 was 🥰 Jan 18, 2020

Congrats ! It’s a great offer , I know a buddy who recently joined (from salesforce) and same location - 9 yoe got IC4 and exactly the same TC.

Goldman Sachs mynameisb Jan 18, 2020

Isn't this TC too low for IC4?

Microsoft Tin man Jan 18, 2020

Don't let them get away with that sign on bonus

Cognizant gXrshu Jan 18, 2020

Yeah the sign on seems low

Cisco hTIj02 Jan 22, 2020

One recruiter mentioned oracle considers the joining bonus as part of their total comp , similar to amazon , is that true ?

Indeed rainwater Jan 18, 2020

can get more stock

Microsoft HJnA06 Jan 20, 2020

Good offer! Curious to know if IDCS team growing? AFAIK Oracle IDCS is not very popular among enterprise customers. To add to the confusion OCI has its own IAM feature set. Most enterprises have deployed either Azure AD or Okta as their primary IdP for cloud applications and use IDCS free/bundled version for SAML SP integration with Oracle apps.

Zillow Group melnorme OP Jan 20, 2020

Thank you! To me IDCS looks like Okta-like solution from Oracle, sitting on top of IAM base layer of access control features. I did not know that enterprise customers tend to use Okta itself, through it makes sense, given open nature of SAML.

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