going to be on pip what to do
I got a MM last half and had a conversation with my manager saying my engineering excellence is not as good as expected (caused a sev last half). it seems ill be getting another MM and my manager said wed have a document to show myprogress for the half. it seems i will be put on pip. What should I do? should i stay at fb or interview? any advice for context im an e4 at fb. Joined as e3 and been here 3 years. I feel that my relationship with my manager is not so good. Previously before this team all my ratings were MA or GE. I don’t think I can change teams with MM so my options are to stay on the team and overcome the pip or interview. I am thinking to try doing both (interview prep) and prepare for pip. Any advice would be appreciated!
Never been on PIP but I would start looking for new jobs. Facebook on your resume will help regardless
Post this inside the FB sub and you will get much better advice.
I did but did not get much advice so wanted to post more broadly to see what people in other companies advice would be
Depends on if you actually understand what you are not doing well and think you can improve on that. If you think “they” are in the wrong, you don’t deserve it, don’t understand what “they” want from you... start interviewing, pip won’t work out for you.
Refresh your resume and start lining up references - also start thinking about who at FB you could use as a reference...not for this job search but the one after that. Much easier to change jobs when you already have one and the market is still pretty strong.
Despite the name PIP is basically a process to document why they are justified in firing you. Once you get there it’s too late. If I were you I’d start interviewing right away.
I never 100% understood this mentality. You are clearly a talented engineer as you work at FB and have gotten GE in the past. Right now it doesn’t seem like this is the best place for you, you’re in a hole, and likely causing your manager and XFN (and yourself) stress. Just find another job - they are a dime a dozen out here.
Yeah, people tie their identity / self-worth to their job (and notably to things outside of their control) too much.
Is it actually possible to "overcome" a PIP? I thought it was just a formality to fire you.
Nothing is impossible, whether it’s probable is a different matter. The thing is, even if you survive a PIP, you’re basically considered damaged goods by the organization. Your career is over, because there’s a written record that you flaked at one point. Your chance of promotion becomes very slim, because they’ll always pick some other guy with a clean record instead of you. They’ll also pick you first for a layoff. Why are you staying for this?
So , if one’s code causes a major ticket at Facebook , it’s a clear ticket to MM ?
Change teams immediately
With MM at fb you can’t usually change teams
It can’t block you from interviewing and former GE and MA should help you. Talk about scope of role or management style. But get out of that team now.