Evaluating Apple SWE offer.

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confusedap

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confusedap
Oct 21, 2021 20 Comments

Total comp around 450k.
(Edit) Breakdown: ~210k base, RSU+yearly bonus rest. Not counting other benefits like ESPP.

Pros:
Work with really smart people. Top talent in my area.
Stacking refreshers.

Cons:
- I'm not an Apple Fanboy. So dealing with Apple devouts may piss me off on a regular basis.
- [Assumption] Can't talk about most my work outside of Apple? I prefer to talk about work related stuff with like minded people, even outside of work.
- [Assumption] WLB? Not sure

Current Job:

Pros:
- Current TC ~ 600k
- WLB is okay

Cons:
- Meetings
- Documents
- Working with mostly B/C type people. Some B+/A type.
- $SNAP performance today has started giving me second thoughts about it's future

Looking for serious advice as I'm quite confused currently.
- What is the level with 450k salary. Apple recruiter won't tell me the level.
- How is WLB for teams working on iPhone/iWatch related system software?

#tech #apple #snap

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  • Apple
    THBQ20

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    THBQ20
    What .. why would thank a pay cut , this is ICt4
    Oct 21, 2021 3
  • Apple
    why_not?

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    why_not?
    Fwiw I also came to Apple with fears of being surrounded by Apple fan boys every day. Overall itโ€™s been ok. The only times that do get annoying are the yearly release events when everyone gathers to watch it together and is amazed by the smallest changes. I avoid this by watching it by myself at my desk while also catching up with the Netflix shows that Iโ€™m behind on
    Oct 21, 2021 2
  • Apple
    THBQ20

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    THBQ20
    iPhone system SW, not going to have excellent wlb
    Oct 21, 2021 0
  • Apple
    ShibaKaBap

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    ShibaKaBap
    600k TC and after todayโ€™s 22% drop, I assume it would still be > 500k. IMO - itโ€™s never worth giving up higher compensation just to work with smarter people or in better projects. But if you do go down path - we Al can talk about what we work on, but not take names or reveal the unreleased product itself, and this is what happens in any high profile product at G or ๐ŸŒ as well. It looks like ICT4 but be aware, you will get pro rated bonus and refreshers n your 1st year here.
    Oct 21, 2021 1
    • Apple
      0854

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      0854
      Agree with all you said except the last point. I joined 3/4 of the review cycle and still got full bonus and refreshers.
      Oct 21, 2021
  • Apple
    0854

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    0854
    450k sounds ICT4. Wlb is very dependent on the team/org. AI/ML is great, not sure about other sw orgs, but I know hw folks bleed to death!
    Also you don't have to be a fanboy. I still use my Samsung phone in the office. Nobody cares.

    What's the offer breakdown? Did you count refreshers and cash bonus too?
    Oct 21, 2021 6
    • Apple
      0854

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      0854
      I have gotten 120k and 100k so far every year as refreshers. And 30k each year as cash bonus. So I do count them. The base raise was was also good (9k first year, 8k second year).
      Oct 22, 2021
    • Snap
      confusedap

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      confusedap
      OP
      no i'm not counting yearly refreshers, as I haven't gotten them yet.
      Oct 22, 2021